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The United States is the richest country in the world and we spend far more on health care than any other nation. Yet, patients often receive worse care and have inferior outcomes to people in other countries. One place the shocking disparity shows up loud and clear is in our birthing practices. In a report that the Washington Post called a “national embarrassment,” the Centers for Disease Control revealed last year that the United States ranked dead last in infant mortality among the 28 wealthiest countries.
Despite our seemingly advanced medical system, the death rate for infants is shockingly high, with 6.1 infant deaths per every 1,000 live births. That’s almost three times as high as Finland and Japan, which boast the lowest rates at 2.3 deaths per 1,000.
One prime factor for negative health outcomes for mothers and babies appears to be a high rate of unnecessary caesarian sections, performed at hospitals and conventional birthing centers that are more interested in following a strict schedule than allowing the mother’s body to direct the birthing process. About a third of all births in the United States are performed via c-section, according to the CDC, far more than the number necessary to preserve the health of the mother or child.
C-sections and other medical interventions can save lives in an emergency, but birth is not nearly as dangerous as some media hype makes it out to be. On the contrary, natural birth has proven to be remarkably healthy for most women.
Research published last year in the Journal of Midwifery & Women’s Health showed that home births with a midwife had no increase in adverse effects compared to hospital birth, and showed a far lower rate of intervention. The massive study, which looked at nearly 17,000 births, found that the c-section rate for women who attempted home births was 5.2 percent, dramatically lower than the overall c-section rate of 31 percent during the same time period from 2004 to 2009. Women who gave birth at home received fewer episiotomies, pitocin and epidurals treatments, and only one percent of babies born at home were transferred to the hospital afterward.
“This study adds to the large and growing body of research that has found that planned home birth with a midwife is not only safe for babies and mothers with low-risk pregnancies,” the Midwives Alliance of North America notes on their blog, “but results in health and cost benefits that reach far beyond one pregnancy.
Other evidence shows a similar trend. One review published in The Journal of Perinatal Education compiled several studies that showed positive outcomes for natural births. In one, research conducted in the Netherlands showed that infants born via c-section had higher rates of harmful gut bacteria and lower rates of beneficial bacteria, the opposite result of infants born vaginally at home. The longer a baby stayed in the hospital, the more harmful bacteria it acquired.
“In normal vaginal birth, newborns encounter their mothers’ microbes during the critical first hours. Some of these microbes are beneficial and promote healthy gastrointestinal development,” the researchers note. “When a baby is born by cesarean surgery and/or subjected to prolonged hospitalization, unfamiliar hospital-borne pathogens such as C. difficile dominate the microbial environment of the newborn’s gut.”
The next study looked at how to reduce genital trauma requiring suturing during natural births, and found that the most effective method was for the mother to follow her own body’s instructions in regard to pushing, rather than taking direction from a doctor or midwife.
“A calm and unrushed approach to vaginal birth improved the health of new mothers by lowering overall trauma rates and reducing the need for suturing,” the study notes. “Attendance by caregivers who are confident in normal birth, such as the midwives who conducted this trial, supports the natural unfolding of the birth process and, thus, reduces maternal injury.”
Anther study that looked at data from 20 birthing centers in the United States found that numerous c-sections are performed unnecessarily, regardless of whether the mother or baby showed high risk signs that would call for the invasive surgery.
“Expectant families should be counseled that avoiding unnecessary inductions and laboring at home until an active labor pattern is established are two of the most important means of avoiding cesarean surgery,” the report notes. “Choosing the birth setting carefully, with attention given to rates of elective and routine obstetric practices, may also help avert surgical births.”
The Global Healing Center points out a number of advantages to natural childbirth. For one, it’s empowering to women to be in charge of their own birth. It also reduces the chances of acquiring an infection at the hospital or receiving an unnecessary episiotomy. The baby is also likely to be healthier because it is born on the woman’s schedule, not that of a doctor rushing to a shift change. Finally, the family saves money — instead of spending up to tens of thousands of dollars in hospital bills for a normal birth, they can save the money and put it toward the child instead.
Simone Surgeoner gave birth to her fourth child, Perouze, in nature using her knowledge as a trained doula and what she calls the ‘Earth Birth Method’.
A literal example of a natural birth is shown in a video of an Australian mother, Simone Surgeoner, a trained doula with experience assisting women before, during, and after childbirth. Surgeoner headed to the woods for her fourth delivery. “My dream had long been to give birth in nature,” Surgeoner says in the video. She flew to a friend’s house in the Daintree rainforest in northeast Australia and found a creek that spoke to her with its “pristine pure and the most amazing fresh water I have ever tasted in my life.”
According to the video, Surgeoner started going into labor overnight. Worried that the creek would be too cold, she sets up in an outdoor bathtub instead. By nine in the morning, she hadn’t delivered and decided to move down to her chosen spot in the creek after all.
While the other children played in the stream and along the rocky shore, she lies down on a mat in the creek for the final push. Once the baby crowns, it emerges quickly into the world. By 10:50, Surgeoner is sitting in the stream holding her new baby girl.
“There were some times I didn’t think I could do it,” she says in relief as she cradles her new daughter, sitting in nature and surrounded by her family.
“It was the singular most transforming event of my life,” she writes in the video description, “and my most conscious act as a woman to date.”
Watch the video below to see an all-natural birth in action.
i hope the stream water is clean,
dont be animal , thats what differentiate humans :/ pathetiC
Pathetic? She just gave birth to a human being… let’s see you do that.
But humans are animals. What do you think we did before our modern technology? dont be asshole , thats what differentiate men :/ pathetiC
What did we do before our modern technology?
Mostly die
Don’t be so haute. We are animals. We were the ones who decided that we were number one.
Remember the Middle Ages? That’s because your ancestors defeated the odds and survived their birth and actually managed to stay alive for long enough as to breed… which was an impressive feat. About as impressive as the mother herself surviving childbirth! But now that we’ve passed that era, managed to let our medicine and knowledge evolve enough as to make childbirth relatively risk-free… here are some hippies who decide it’s okay to tell expectant mothers that there’s nothing that could go wrong in home (or even nature!) births. Congrats guys. Really, hats down for managing to sleep at night.
What is wrong with being a hippie? Mostly they are happy, healthy human beings who do not harm other people and do not destroy our planet. They do not sponsor the the big pharma ( which makes more money than any drug/ gun cartells/barrons )and live long. Medicine, evolve? We take a shit load of crap which our bodies are NOT DESIGNED TO INGEST. Look at the cancer rate. mhm.. Evolving, you say? In which direction?
“What is wrong”? What is wrong is that there are a TON of complications that can come up during childbirth, including infections, the mother going into shock, the child being born with abnormalities or problems that the previous medical tests could not pick up on, the child being born with the umbilical chord wrapped around its neck, the child needing extra care in order to breathe – and a TON of other things. But in order to “stick it to the man” these people are outwardly advising young mothers into giving up on the care of their doctors and instead giving birth at home or worse – in the goddamn woods! Let’s make sure this happens as far away from civilization and a hospital as possible! So that if something bad DOES happen… help is many many miles away.
You speak as if childbirth is the perfect time to go boycotting “big pharma” and modern medicine. Well guess what: it’s not! It’s through these people that we’ve gotten to the place we are today – a mother can have 10 children if she wants, and it’s almost guaranteed that her and all 10 of her children will live through the birthing process and reach adulthood unscathed. Thanks to modern medicine, that hippies’ “rebellious” nature likes to throw so much shit at. 200-300 years ago, a couple would have 5-6 children and if they were lucky… maybe one or two made it to adulthood. Maybe. There have been kings and queens who’ve had 5+ children and yet no heir (male or female). What does that tell you? That it’s advisable to fuck medicine and go birth in the woods? NO!
Accept the help that doctors can now give you. It’s not only for YOUR life but for your children’s lives too. And you owe it to them to just say no to your rebellious ego for once, and just do what you’re goddamn told by goddamn professionals who know better than the crystal-gazing hippie on the “chakra-loving”, vegan websites you’re reading.
Don’t fuck around with this stuff.
If the cord is wrapped around the baby’s neck, then you unwrap it.
Yes because while you’re giving birth and the baby is getting strangled as it’s coming out, you’re just fine with bending down under your expanding vagina, over your huge belly, and being fast and dexterous with your fingers.
The ignorance in some people…
It appears to me that you are the ignorant one Jestress. No one should be told what to do with their own bodies. There has been natural child births done the exact same way since the begining of human existence. You are a fearmongering coward that thinks everything will go horribly wrong if there isn’t a “professional” around. Babies die in hospitals all over the world every day. A hospital is not some magical building where they can fix every problem. Im sure this mother knew exactly what she was doing. Grow the fuck up and let people live their lives the way they choose.
Yes, there have been natural births done the exact same way from the beginning of human existence… and how exactly did that go? What was the mortality rate for mother and child? What were the repercussions? What was the life expectancy before modern medicine became what it is today? You’re calling me ignorant for stating facts and not petting hippie ego stating that we all have instinctive medical knowledge and proper reactions to medical emergencies… Which we don’t. And no, it’s not about what the mother chooses to do with her own body. That was in the first few weeks of pregnancy, before deciding if she is or isn’t having this baby. Once the fetus started becoming more and more human, now she’s also got the responsibility of the child on her shoulders; and it’s immoral to risk the child’s well-being to satisfy her own boycott on “big pharma”, “modern medicine”, or whatever other ignorant shit these people may be spouting.
Yes, river birth, how cute. But if it had gone wrong, if indeed the baby would’ve been strangled with the umbilical chord while coming out or if he had needed immediate medical assistance right then and there… what would she’ve done? If the baby had died because of her ego and ignorance, would or wouldn’t it’ve been a criminal act? It IS almost criminal to refuse help when it’s more than your own life on the line… Keep that stuff where it’s only affecting you and not the life growing inside of you.
Y si?? Eso es todo lo que tenéis que decir en contra… “Y si”.
Y si paseando me cae una teja?? Ah, entonces caminar es un absurdo, caminar es de “eco idiotas”… Pues qué quieres que te diga??
Soy enfermera, trabajo y he trabajado en numerosos hospitales de varios países europeos… Y también he ayudado a matronas en.partos en cada; aún no he visto un bebé muerto por el cordón umbilical en un nacimiento en casa… No puedo decir lo mismo de los súper eficientes hospitales.
Tú fiate de un doctor y no de la naturaleza… Pero piensa que “errares humano” y los médicos no son Dios.
Hay más fallos médicos que naturales… Y repito, soy enfermera, pero defensora de lo natural.
English, Gloria, English! How can I expect you to understand all of those novel-comments myself and others like me have written here, when you’re not even capable of writing a reply in the same language we’re speaking?
My name is not Gloria, cateto racista. Then the yours is Peter Griffin.
You can understand me in the same way i do to you: studying and opening the mind. English language isn’t the only. You thinking is not have to be the best… Ooooh, glourious cientifical studies! I love them; plz, read more about “HWO” in spanish “OMS”
I speak English, Romanian and French. I’m not a native English speaker. However, English is the main language on the internet and the one this article and all the other comments were written in. The basis of communication is that we all speak the same language in a single conversation, otherwise it’s all in vain. How would you like it if I started typing in Romanian now and then tried to play the victim when people don’t get me?
Vezi ce vreau să spun? Asta-ți sună ție a comunicare? Pentru că mie-mi sună a teatrul absurdului, fiecare bate câmpii în limba lui și se mai înțelege dracu’. A da, și acuzațiile alea de rasism sunt penibile, pentru că latinii nu sunt o alta „rasă” (culmea e că și noi românii suntem o combinație de latini cu slavi!), iar dacă mă iau e tine pentru limba pulii, poți în cel mai bun caz să mă acuzi de xeonofobie, nu de rasism. Și ți-am spus Gloria pentru că și aia face la fel ca tine: nu e-n stare să comunice ca lumea în limba țării în care locuiește, așa că trăncănește într-o spanioleză dubioasă – cu efect comic. Așa și noi. Tu vorbești spaniolă, eu vorbesc română, filipinezul vine și el și vorbește limba lui, mai vine o rusoaică și ne vorbește în limba ei – cu alfabetu chirlic cu tot – și comunicarea se duce dracului. Deci… ENGLEZĂ.
As for “WHO”… What about them? Are you talking about a study they did or some measures they’re taking or something?
Right now, the US ranks 28th among first world nations in maternal and fetal mortality – dead last. clearly, we are not doing as well as we should for the amount of money we spend. trust me, it isn’t the rate of rive births bringing up the MMR – it’s more likely to be the ever increasing cesarean section rate that is a driver.
well the world is totally over populated so it obviously hasn’t affected us any.
You don’t really get how “cause and effect” work, do you? That’s exactly the point I was making: mortality dropped massively and life expectancy doubled, thanks to modern medicine + hygiene + better nutrition. Hence, our ever growing numbers. Now punch modern medicine in the stomach because we’re too cool and hippie for it, and you’ll notice how mortality rates will start growing massively again. Get it now? Need me to draw a diagram?
As for your other comment… I won’t attack the style of writing because that’s below the belt, but I WILL attack the “right literature” phrase you used. “Right” literature? What makes it “right” as opposed to numbers and statistics? The fact that it makes you personally happy? That it approves your weird ideas about life? No… I’m sorry, but no. Opinions and such are awesome, but I’d rather have cold hard facts and then draw my own conclusions. And whatever your personal experience might’ve been with your own first, second, third, fourth etc child, the fact remains that STATISTICS show how home births are more dangerous than hospital births. “Get over myself”? I could say the same to you. And “the real world”? Yeah, the real world is formed by fact, not hippie bullshit which yes, you are indeed spouting. As for countries… Why the Hell do you keep asking where I live? I live in Romania – Eastern Europe. We’re pretty much at the crossroads between Western civilization and primitive superstition… and I’ve seen time and time again how ignoring rationality and facts can have disastrous effects on you and those around you.
But hey, maybe we, as a species, DO need more “mothers” like this. The World is indeed overpopulated and at the end of the day it’s just another application of “survival of the fittest”. By all means, go and give birth alone in the forest and doe encourage others to do the same. “Culling of the fold” 🙂
You may have read the text at the begining of the video that said the mother had herself examined during pregnancy to make sure she was a proper candidate for this type of delivery. Went through training and had (at least one) home delivery before she commited to delivery in nature. I’m sure the father had the same classes. It seems the mother addressed any and all risks. Including that of staph or MSRA which can be deadly and most cases originate from a hospital.
You think this is safe and cute? I’m just fear-mongering? No. I am telling expecting mothers not to buy this bullshit and realize the risks they are subjecting themselves and their children to. There you go:
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/home-birth-statistics-fetal-deaths-injuries/51479633fe344411590004ba
http://hurtbyhomebirth.blogspot.ro/
http://www.kidspot.com.au/home-birth-goes-badly-wrong-one-mums-story/
http://dangersofhomebirth.blogspot.ro/
http://www.popsugar.com/moms/What-Home-Birth-Like-36487613
http://www.thedoctorstv.com/articles/3014-woman-s-home-birth-nightmare
http://jocelynandjason.blogspot.ro/2014/09/10-reasons-id-never-ever-ever-have-home.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/09/09/home-birth-horror-stories-women-who-have-lost-children-telltheir-stories.html
http://www.skepticalob.com/2013/03/empty-arms-broken-heart-another-homebirth-death.html
http://www.graceformoms.com/why-the-words-home-birth-make-me-cringe/
Huff post and blogspot.com are never considered accurate sourses as there is 0 fact checking on those sites. I can only guess at the accuracy of thedoctersTV.com or skeptolob.com. There are also websites that can make one fear using the toilet, touching door handles or ever having any food or drink from a can.
If my niece were born this way she’d be dead right now you thoughtless shit
The woman in the video is not just “living her life the way she chooses”. She is putting a baby’s life at risk. If there was any complication, she appeared to be nowhere near help.
Also, she is not just sharing this with family members, she is posting it on the internet. Childbirth used to be fraught with danger and MANY woman and babies died. It is not fear-mongering to be concerned that women be encouraged to have babies miles from any possible help.
And, while there have been natural child births for eons, the women were attended by other women experienced in childbirth. And still, many women and children died
From the U.S. CDC: From 1915 through 1997, the infant mortality rate declined greater than 90% and from 1900 through 1997, the maternal mortality rate declined almost 99%. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4838a2.htm
I don’t think it is necessary that a doctor “deliver a baby” from a woman (who is probably lying flat and birthing against gravity solely for the doctor’s convenience).
I like the idea of birthing centers that are attached to hospitals. The ideal is the woman, aided by her midwife, will be able to birth naturally. If there is a serious problem, medical science has been shown to be able to avert tragedy.
Ignorance, you say…
“Centers for Disease Control revealed last year that the United States ranked dead last in infant mortality among the 28 wealthiest countries.”
Holy crap.
I’m amazed that as many as two people thought you’re just fine with bending down under your expanding vagina, over your huge belly and being fast an dexterous with her fingers.
Actually women nowadays are highly unlikely to be able to give birth 10 times in a hospital setting. This was only possible in the generations before us when women gave birth at home. Today, at current rates in the US, one perfectly healthy woman in three will give birth by C-section in a hospital for one reason or another so there is no way you’ll get to ten births. The most C-sections I’ve heard of a woman having was five and that was against all medical advice and almost unheard of. It is very unsafe, so most doctors counsel women to stop at three cesareans.
mmmmmmmm jestress. seems that you STRESS too much!!!! I can’t even be bothered reading down the whole stream of diatribe because yours pissed me off enough to write…….. we don’t need a trillion people having 10 babies each due to “modern science and pharma shite”!!!! I had both my babies at home, first one at 31, second at 41, no complications, surviving just fine thank you. get over yourself, women have been giving birth for millenia and not needing bloody doctors!!! Read the right literature! Birthing was brought into the medical profession for profit! No other reason! And those doctors KILLLED women in the beginning because they had NO idea about transferring bugs! so never washed their hands between surgeries and births! I would think that it would be better to be giving birth in the woods where I was comfortable and familiar! it’s ALL about being comfortable in your surroundings. My second baby was born, at home, in my bedroom, after … really…. a one hour if that labour. totally couldn’t have wished for (but did ….. decide that I was going to have a five hr labour 4 pushes) but got better…. becuase I decided it for myself and got it.,…….. in less. My husband didn’t even know…. nor my my mother whose was here for the birth…… so get over yourself, you can totally have safe births at home!!!!! My first baby was also born at hm in my bedroom, after a 12 or so hr labour, head too big for me, cord wrapped round her neck twice… but becuase of my awesome midwife who I COMPLETELY trusted, we were both fine! what country do you live in?!!!!!!!!!! becuase of these fine births, I want to have another baby and I will more than likely be 43 or 44. Am I a crystal gazing hippie chakra loving vegan? OR do i just live in the real world – i.e Gisborne, New Zealand 🙂
Passing on their evil propaganda.
“Despite our seemingly advanced medical system, the death rate for infants is shockingly high, with 6.1 infant deaths per every 1,000 live births. That’s almost three times as high as Finland and Japan, which boast the lowest rates at 2.3 deaths per 1,000.” To quote this very page.
“But now that we’ve passed that era, managed to let our medicine and knowledge evolve enough as to make childbirth relatively risk-free.” To quote you.
” ” To quote the part where she said there is nothing wrong here.
You see the problem? Maybe she said it in the video I might have missed it. But so what if a girl wants to give birth in nature? Who are you to tell her she can’t?
Read the rest of my comments. And read and listen to these:
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/home-birth-statistics-fetal-deaths-injuries/51479633fe344411590004ba
http://hurtbyhomebirth.blogspot.ro/
http://www.kidspot.com.au/home-birth-goes-badly-wrong-one-mums-story/
http://dangersofhomebirth.blogspot.ro/
http://www.popsugar.com/moms/What-Home-Birth-Like-36487613
http://www.thedoctorstv.com/articles/3014-woman-s-home-birth-nightmare
http://jocelynandjason.blogspot.ro/2014/09/10-reasons-id-never-ever-ever-have-home.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/09/09/home-birth-horror-stories-women-who-have-lost-children-telltheir-stories.html
http://www.skepticalob.com/2013/03/empty-arms-broken-heart-another-homebirth-death.html
http://www.graceformoms.com/why-the-words-home-birth-make-me-cringe/
To quote:
“Study after study after study has shown that home birth in the United States has at least 3 times the neonatal death rate that hospital birth has. That means that at least three times as many babies die in labor or at birth at home than at the hospital.
To be very clear: these studies are all on planned, midwife-attended home births.
This study, published February 2014 and with a huge sample size of 10,453,778 births in the US, found that home birth has 4 times the death rate of hospital birth: Term neonatal deaths resulting from home births: an increasing trend, Neonatal Mortality Risk Increased for Home Midwife Births.
This analysis from Arizona in 2013 found that home birth triples the risk of your baby dying:Outcomes of Home vs. Hospital Births Attended by Midwives: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis.
These CDC statistics from data collected in 2008, released in 2013, show that “the neonatal mortality rate for planned homebirth attended by a non-nurse midwifes (CPM, LM) is 3.5 times higher than comparable risk hospital birth attended by a CNM (certified nurse midwife).”: CDC Wonder Database Homebirth Statistics.
These statistics, gathered by the state of Oregon in 2012 and released in 2013, found home birth had a death rate of term babies 8 times higher than hospital birth: Intrapartum Fetal and Neonatal Deaths Associated with Planned Out-of-Hospital Births in Oregon (2012). Eight times! Judith Rooks, past president of the American College of Nurse-Midwives and the CNM in charge of collecting the data, said: “Many women have been told that out of hospital births are as safe or safer than births in hospitals…But out-of-hospital births are not as safe as births in hospitals in Oregon, where many of them are attended by birth attendants who have not completed an educational curriculum designed to provide all the knowledge, skills and judgment needed by midwives who practice in any setting.”
And this data, collected by the Midwives Alliance of North America themselves, found that babies born at home died 5.5 times more often than babies born at hospitals: MANA Home Birth Data 2004-2009. And if you looked at various subgroups – such as breech babies – the numbers were truly shocking. MANA reported, “Of 222 babies presenting in breech position, 5 died either during labor or the neonatal period.” That’s a rate of almost 22.5 deaths per 1000 babies born. Breech babies born in the hospital have a rate of 0.8/1000. So breech babies born at home died at a rate 28 times higher than those born in the hospital. That’s HUGE.
Four times the death rate, three times the death rate, three and a half times the death rate, eight times the death rate, five and a half times the death rate – one thing that all these studies have in common is that they clearly show giving birth at home significantly increases the chance that your baby will die during birth.
Homebirth advocates like to say that “babies die in hospitals too,” but the difference is that babies don’t diepreventable deaths at hospitals. At a homebirth, at least two out of every three babies that die die for causes that would not have killed them in a hospital.”
This lady is a trained professional on her fourth pregnancy. Im pretty sure she wouldn’t advise this for everyone. Please calm down. Also, I probably won’t respond if you comment, because you are obviously very stuck in what you want to believe, but seriously, just let people live and think for themselves. The problem these days is too many people let others make decisions for them out of fear and don’t want to research for themselves. I’ve looked into this and there are tons of OBGYNS that feel hospitals aren’t safe for your babies. People have only been having children in hospitals for about 150-200 years. Before that, people figured since women naturally carry babies inside them and have birthed them with little to no help for thousands of years, that it’s okay to have them at home. There’s even some news articles you can read, since you’d rather some news corp do research for you that look around yourself. The truth of it though, is that some babies will always die at birth, and if you decide to carry a child, you should be prepared for that possibility so if it comes, your mind is prepared to stand strong in the face of crushing sadness and disappointment. Atleast at home you can be in a place you feel safe, and not in some weird room with people who may not even know your name.
Well apparently you have NOT read the statistics I have copied for you nor the facts about mortality in the past so… why bother carrying on the conversation, when you’re just trying to turn it into me being a stuck-up, controlling, villain and ignoring the actual facts?
Truth is, we’ll never be able to get past a certain point as a society, until we learn some self control and self-analysis… and learn what constitutes “fact” as opposed to “opinion” or “emotional” thoughts. All that stuff you’re writing there is emotional. Facts are not emotional. You don’t make this sort of decision, with your baby’s life on the line, out of egotistic opinions that contradict the actual statistics.
But whatever, I give up. Risk the lives of your kids and make it seem like a good idea to others as well.
Iady, I think YOU are letting emotions control you. Mainly fear.
And also, instincts are a fact of nature. How else do birds know to migrate and ants know how to build a mound. I think we as a species are SUPER out of touch with our instincts and want to be lead like domesticated cattle to our ever so impending doom. Please think for yourself at some point. Doing the research yourself cant be replaced by pouring over statistics. Statistics are the product of someone elses research which you could work behind amd and truly validate, because I’ve looked at statistics before and done more research into that subject and I’ve found that the numbers were stacked in the odds of those who want the research to show the results they desire. They told us for years that people didn’t live as long in the middle ages, only to be found out later that they used to infant mortality rate to drop the number to 40 instead of showing that people then lived as long, POSSIBLY LONGER, than they do now. I back my ideas with months of pouring over literature and scientist led studies. You probably looked all these statistics up the same day you read the article. Go read a book or something, please.
“Go read a book or something” & co.
You know… you’re advocating for something that is NOT rational and that will only be encouraged by hippie pseudo-scientific books, at best. And yet here you are, pretending that you’re somehow more well-read or more educated than I am. You need to learn to spot pseudo-science and bullshit (like the stuff about instincts saving the day every time because that is not how life works!). I suggest you start with Carl Sagan’s “Demon Haunted World”. It’s old, but it really shows the flaws in this hippie mindset and for people like you it’s a good starting point in getting that bullshit detector to actually work.
Yea, I’ve already read Sagan. He’s kind of an old hippie himself. Maybe you should pick up more of his books or watch Cosmos or something. Get out of your own ass and stop being a pushy. I think people need to explore other options of doing things. I dont think all women should birth this way, but I also dont think you should go to a hospital and have a csection that your doctor rushes you into and then takes your child and separates you over night. This will be my last reply on this because there’s really no use to explain to you over and over that people deserve to have options and think for themselves. From the looks of your comments, your blood pressure is probably through the roof.
“there’s really no use to explain to you over and over”
Join the club, sweetheart!
It’s a bit ridiculous isn’t it? I mean why the hell is she sooooo concerned over somebody else’s choice on how they want to have a baby and being so damn pushy about it!!! I’ve had two homebirths, probably wouldn’t go have a baby in the wild without my midwife, but hey, it worked out fine, happy family and baby at the end of it. What’s the problem? Why is everyone so focused on what COULD have happened instead of what DID happen!!!! Jestress get off the blogs and have a wine. or whatever floats your incredibly uptight boat.
Oh, and go look at all the “doctor approved” articles that have lately arisen on the topic of hospitals being perhaps not the best options. I know you think you’re suuuuper well read and stuff, but there’s always more reading to be done.
finally someone else that heard that in the video she was trained as a professional.
we should have choices, babies do die in birth which is tragic, but they die in hospitals too and so do mothers. No one method is right for all but we should have the right to choose, otherwise we are a dictatorship and we do not live with any freedom.
Read. The. Statistics. Even in the US the smallest ration is three dead babies at home for every one dead baby in the hospital. That’s the best ratio. In other states it’s 4 dead babies at home for every one dead baby in the hospital. EIGHT dead babies at home for every one dead baby in the hospital. And so on. But nowhere is the ratio in favor of home births or even equal between home births and hospitals.
It is a choice, yes. But one that must be taken responsibly, taking the FACTS into accounts and not the hippie sob stories of “divine instinct” you read online. Otherwise you are putting your baby to a higher risk than necessary for your own comfort or to feed some “Mother Nature” delirium you’ve got going on. And if anything happens to the baby, then who’s to blame?
Amazing how ignorant you are…while thinking you know everything you’re yakking about.
She had her baby. It was healthy. You seem kinda obsessed. You aren’t convincing anyone. Way to tl;dr hours of your life away tho…
Hundreds of years of scientific advancement to make childbirth safer – all lost on eco-idiots and “natural” medicine enthusiasts. Even women in ancient times preferred to give birth indoors.
Un hombre no puede saber lo jodidamente incómodo, doloroso, insufibre que es parir en una camilla, abrirse de piernas y que un ginecólogo se siente y corte y cosa lo que le dé la gana.
El parto es femenino, el parto es de la madre… Que la madre decida parir donde ella quiera.
Sometimes que la madre queres es not in the best interests del nino.
La madre que no piensa en el niño es la que va a un hospital a que le hagan una cesarea, abdominopastia y todo lo que haga falta para que ella no sienta nada de dolor en el parto (es decir, no sentir el parto en absoluto) y que su cuerpo quede como antes del parto no, mejor todavía.
No entiendo que ser natural no sea pensar en tu hijo, LA REVÉS! Si la madre está cómoda pariendo el parto se acorta y el bebé sufre menos… pero bueno, que si los médicos del SXVIII inventaron los forceps y la tasa de muertes maternales era superior en los hospitales que en los hogares… es porque las madres sólo pensamos en nosotras cuando nos negamos a los forceps, a una postura antiergonomica (¿has intentado cagar tumbado bocarriba y con las piernas abiertas? Pues parir es más dificil) y a que niestro hijo no nos lo dejen ver hasta casi 3 horas después de haberlo parido, cuando más lo necesita el bebé Y SÍ, cuando más lo necesita la madre (¿sabes lo que son las hormonas? ¿y la lactancia materna? ¿y por qué hay leche en las madres? ¿sabes lo que es la estimulación galactica?). Porqe un parto es cosa de 2; de la madre y del bebé.
NO TE DARÉ LA RAZÓN NUNCA a no ser que me digas que la misma OMS (Organización Mundial de la Salud) también se equivoca…
Did I actually use any of the words correctly?
Open your eyes! Stop living in FEAR! If you even know how to. Mothers aren’t stupid. We all instinctively protect ourselves and our babies and try to make the smartest choice. So who are you to point fingers and judge !
Read the statistics and stop assuming that everyone’s out to get you! It’s your baby’s life on the line – be responsible for once!
New age birth? I think old age! No fetal monitoring? She’s lucky, could have been in dire straits and had NO idea! I shad 5 kids so I do know what I’m talking about. This is totally irresponsible and misleading!
We’re wasting our breath here..
do you live in america?
Amazing how strong we are as women…hats off to that mom…she is incredible!!! The love she understands between herself and the universe is undeniably pure!!
beautiful! tanx 4 sharing was truly amazing! U R blessed xx
I had 3 babies at home, 2 at hospital. No problems at home, far too much interference at hospital, nurse insisted on cutting me, when it was my smallest baby, + I wasnt having any problems, + it was my quickest birth….sewed me up really badly.
Hi peeps. I want to add my 2 bob. Women have been giving birth since the dawn of time. Throughout this time we have learned and evolved but not to the extent that the act of giving birth is still are primary function. Without this most basic function the human race would simply not exist. How and where a women chooses to give birth is her own decision. We humans have forgotten how magical and natural nature and biology truly is. Whatever the environment or circumstance giving birth is just that it is not complicated (in most cases) and I believe that both natural and medical births are both valuable. Inherently we want our children to survive, another basic instinct. For example myself. My first born son. I had a natural birth in a western hospital. My pregnancy was normal and there were no expected complications. He was born and developed a lung infection and was in a neo-natal care for a week on IV antibiotics. After that a most normal and healthy baby. My second son. Then I was living in East Africa and again had a normal pregnancy. I watch the local women throughout their pregnancies and noticed that little or no medical intervention was wanted. They just were pregnant and they just gave birth. No preg tests or ultrasounds and no pre or post natal care. Most ex pat women went home to their country of birth to gave birth as they were concerned about any complications and wanted to best medical care on hand should it arise. Fair enough their decision. My feeling and decision was I had no problems throughout my pregnancy and again no complications expected. So I went ahead and gave birth in one of the most rudimentary hospitals I had ever seen. Everything was BYO even the toilet paper! The DR didn’t even turn up but the local midwife was the most knowledgeable person I’d ever meet and my son was born naturally. However again my son second son development an infection with 24 hours and again IV antibiotics were administered and I took him home and went back to the hospital twice daily as there was no neo-natal facility. After 1 week he was well and still is. All of us have the answers within us. We only need to know and trust our own instincts. We have them for a reason and getting back in touch with in is the best and only way to live out lives however we choose to do that. In a hospital, at home, by a creek, wherever. We humans over complicate the most basic things and sometimes to our own detriment! Nature is nature and will also take the best course of action (if you watch and listen) and the rest is as they say history.
I believe this mother knew what she was doing. She seamed to have absolute certainty that everything will go OK and sometimes that is all that is needed because the birth of a human being is a miracle by itself. Anyway I would not recommed it to the average woman who can’t have that same certainty
Was I the only one that seemed to try to help her push
nope! Anyone who has had a baby would do that automatically, I think. I’ve had four children “natural childbirth’ (I was conscious, awake and helping) but I can’t imagine delivering on rocks! Especially small irregular-shaped rocks. That’s an amazing film of an amazing mother and family. Beautiful.
How wonderful Rhonda, that is the instinctive understanding that exists between women.
Oh puke. And none of it happens until a man fertilizes the egg. How’s that for instinctive understanding.
I instinctively understand that you’re a moron.
Was that a little too deep? Clearly you instinctively seek morons as a way to surround yourself with a better grade of people. Only a tool such as yourself could challenge what I posted.
There will never be a day on Earth where I will fail to be abetter grade of person than you. If I die tomorrow, I will still be better than you for the rest of your life. Only a tool such as yourself tries to insult your betters by insulting them with labels that best apply to you. I’m sure you can barely read what I’m writing, but that’s not my problem. You’re a moron and can’t help it.
Your opinion of yourself is biased, laughable and like the rest of you, lacks a single shred of credibility. C’mon back when you think you’re ready.
You wouldn’t know credibility if it bit your mom’s micropenis.
But you certainly know about biting on small penises, don’t cha? ROTFLMAO, you make it so easy.
why don’t you stop being an ass hole and appreciate that some women are actually stronger than you and can teach their children what you probably been taught by your father
“Oh puke” you may be very skilled in many other ways but that is not showing in your comment. No man has ever given birth, so “oh puke” you really don’t have the knowledge or the wisdom to make an intelligent comment.
Women were given the pain of childbirth as well as the monthly reminder of your 2nd class status in the world. I have enough knowledge to know that you don’t get pregnant OR give birth without a man being involved. No woman has ever fathered a child so please, step away from the pulpit. The instinctive understanding that exists between women is nothing more than an understanding that you are beholden to submit and perform a biological function. Get over yourself.
It takes men and woman to create a life… But a man can leave the situation and go on and carry on with his own life and leave the woman with the full responsibility… Isn’t right but biologically a lot of men did that… I don’t know how to talk on this subject but I think women have a full heart more than what a man has… She sacrifices more to give a healthy life and let it grow beyond her and with her…
… My mother mothered us and fathered us… my sister and I are living proof of a mother that raised us as a single parent. She sacrificed so much just so that my sister and I can have promising lives. There was no man to protect the family or teach us how to be safe and to fight like champions. The only protector and care giver and love and support and disciplinary parent that there was was my mother… She had to play both mother and father role… I don’t resent of not having a daddy in my life. I don’t feel like I missed out on anything because I grew up in a strong home that loved me and would teach me valuable lessons
I hope when her son grows up he understands the risks she took for her cursed ideology.
I think it depends on whether or not they manage to indoctrinate him as well…
It is sad to read you comment CJArndt. A woman giving birth to a new baby is never a “cursed ideology”. It is an instintive, womanly way of bringing forth new life and only women can understand and do this inevitably hard work. Human mammals like all milk producing mammals are very capable of birthing thier babies all around the world.
I am very glad that everything went fine for this woman and her baby, but suppose everything had not ? She did not even have a midwife helping her (yes, she was trained as a midwife, but many things could have gone wrong that she would not be able to help AS she was giving birth.) This was a really irresponsible thing to do. Throughout history and back into pre-history, women had midwives helping them and many of them STILL died (or the baby died). Most hospitals have birthing centers where a woman can deliver her baby with a midwife’s assistance, but that are near enough to advanced medical help that can intervene if there is a problem. Really, to post this as a positive thing to do is shockingly irresponsible.
My wife is a Doula and midwife, and helps women birth at home. Every planned home birth she assists has an emergency plan. They set the parameters for when things go “wrong”, call in medics, and get the woman to a hospital – no negotiation. The parameters are not negotiable; when they are met, to the hospital they go. This is because the priority must be to birth the baby safely; all other considerations are secondary. This was a beautiful birth, and I hope this woman planned this out well, including a contingency plan for when things don’t go as planned. If any woman wants to do this, or have a home birth, please consult a qualified Doula or midwife. This can be a beautiful experience!
isnt this kind of dangerous, say the baby lands on the rocks or in the water. its pretty dangerous to do this isnt it? and the baby comes out blue n purple thats also dangerous
None of that happened
Wonderful to see, and show women around the world that child birthing is natural and can be achieved anywhere without medical intervention.
Very nice and a eye opening reminder of what life is about…. I bet the authorities were anxious to get that baby’s birth certificate on bondage paper so that a new slave can be posted to the stock exchange…. what a sick world we have created.
amazing what an awesome way for a child to enter the world and for its siblings to experience birth as natural and amazing well done.
Sweet video. Thank you for sharing that with us. I’ve given birth twice but have never seen anyone else give birth. Beautiful family!
You do know that this was filmed originally for a TV show
New age birth? I think old age! No fetal monitoring? She’s lucky, could have been in dire straits and had NO idea! I had 5 kids so I do know what I’m talking about. This is totally irresponsible and misleading!
Yeeeahhhhh….not really.
I have birthed 2 children at home and one who came a bit earlier then expected who I birthed in a tent on a family camping trip. I loved having my kids at home as I was born at home but I have to be honest I didn’t get any of that spiritual nature stuff happening. For me it was just birth with sore lady parts for a few days and business as normal, we live on a farm.
Either way glad your birth was the way you wanted it.
I’ve had two home births and wouldn’t have had it any other way. 31 yr old the first time, 41 the second. Amazing. Love it the location, the children, the fact that you recorded and posted it!!!!! dad has it totally right, “well done yummy mummy”!!!!!
both my boys were delivered by midwifes and i cut the umbilical cords,best moments of my LIFE .It took place in a brownstone on 92st and madison ave in Manahattan
This idiot thinks she can escape nature.
i don’t know how women do that… lot of respect
thats really cool
i watched your birth video
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