As a little background, I am a scientist and for most of my life I have been an adamant atheist because all of the Western religions I had come in contact with seemed antiquated and did not encourage critical thinking. In the past few years, I had several opportunities to learn about Eastern spiritual traditions and immerse myself in different philosophies. I came to consider myself an agnostic because I had little data to prove one way or another. At that point it felt arrogant to say that I could understand the mystery of the universe. I felt sure that none of the gods of the most common religions were out there but I did not know what to think of it all.
Then, a year and a half ago, I was able to participate in a 5-MeO-DMT ceremony. 5-MeO-DMT, like its more well known cousin N,N-DMT, is made ‘endogenously’ by all human bodies and is in many plants and animals. Some research had been done on it over the past decades but the researchers that knew the power of this substance kept it quiet because up until 2011 it was not on the DEA’s radar and was still legal. Then in 2011 its status was changed to Schedule I, where the substances considered most dangerous are listed.
The ceremony I participated in consisted of a circle of about six people, and after some intention setting, each of us was given the ‘sacrament’ one at a time while the others held space for the individual. Our ‘guide’ vaporized the compound in a tube of inert argon gas (to prevent burning) that the individual would then breathe in. 5-MeO-DMT is made by the body naturally and it is one of only a few chemicals that can directly cross the blood-brain barrier so it takes effect within seconds.
When it was my turn I sat in the center of everyone and consciously calmed my nerves. After breathing in the vapor, I laid back on the soft bed and my entire visual field dissolved into a white and yet rainbow fractal pattern. I lost track of my body and past and self and I was just observing this beautiful whiteness. The music that was playing went into hi-fi and felt like it was echoing out into infinity. I then felt this loving, feminine consciousness look into my heart and saw that I had a question there which was, “Is there a god?” This consciousness said, “Yes,” and all I could feel was this infinite love and compassion for how difficult it can be to be human. This love was so powerful and it filled me and flew open my heart. I was then shown this golden sphere and the consciousness communicated to me that it represented all of creation and that all of it was a gift. I then returned to my body (about 30 minutes later) and I was immediately back. I came out griping my hands together, crying and saying thank you, thank you! I reached for my boyfriend and pulled him to me and said, “Don’t be afraid baby, there is a god, there is a god.”
Within 40 minutes, I had experienced a complete paradigm shift. Now I look at the world knowing that there is a loving consciousness at work behind it all. This is a difficult transition for my everyday ego mind to grasp. The past year and a half, I have been collecting tools to create a practice of remembering and I will probably spend the rest of my life with this practice. I have done several personal growth workshops and completed Kundalini yoga teacher training in an effort to clear myself of any blocks so that I can be a channel for the love and compassion that I felt. My heart is now open in a way I have never felt before and I feel like I am now fully human. This was by no means the magic bullet to all of my life’s problems; I am still human and prone to the pitfalls that make this life interesting. But now I face challenges with a big picture view that makes things more bearable.
The downfall of language is that we can never truly convey an experience to another. Maybe this is by design, so that we have to have an experience first hand to really know. To really “grok.” I now understand the difference between intellectually knowing something and then “knowing” something in a way that encompassed the core of who I am. It was more like a remembering than a learning. I know that there is a loving consciousness that is a part of me. I don’t think this is faith though, because faith means to believe something without having proof. I do have proof as direct experience. Our modern world has created an economy selling the stories of others’ experiences. Instead of traveling to far off lands, we can watch others do it on TV. There is no substitution for direct experience because it goes beyond the mind.
The fact that 5-MeO-DMT is a considered one of the most dangerous substances in existence is a crime against humanity and one of the most blatant acts of war against the awakening of human consciousness and spirit. But it makes sense, because, how would an economy run if its people were pacifists that were not driven by consumerism? The situation saddens me, but at the same time I feel compassion for the people that are so fearful and asleep that they do not know what they do. I find hope and solace in knowing that the information about these substances cannot be extinguished. They are too powerful. The consciousness unlocked by psychedelics has a long view of time and it’s patient. I feel an incredible responsibility to educate about and advocate for the mindful use of psychedelics. I want to encourage all who read this to do their homework and to keep probing the edges. There is so much more to learn.
i had a similar experience. thanks.
A wonderful, beautiful experience — the late William James would neither confirm its truth nor deny it, but simply observe and appreciate it as a mystical experience, however the mechanism that brought it about. James was above all a pragmatist, and his prime interest would be in the kind of long term changes that it makes in the life and character of the one who experiences such a state. His example is well worth continuing.
The core function of an economy consists of people peacefully trading with (and gifting) each other according to their individual subjective valuations of goods. It’s at the very core of human social interaction and anything that can be considered a civilization. Even having a conversation with someone involves the trading of ideas.
I feel what you may be trying to convey is that our current ( pretty messed up ) socioeconomic paradigm could not exist without a culture that promotes materialistic ends and the use of violence as a means to solve problems. And that it’s unsurprising that substances such as the ones mentioned in the article, which can potentially get people to think outside of the boxes that perpetuate our current socioeconomic (dis?)order, are outlawed by those who benefit from this paradigm.
I’m gonna call bullshit on this. You value critical thinking, are a scientist, and then under the influence of a psychoactive substance, you suddenly believe, because it “felt” real….
People believe in out of body experiences, even when their event can be demonstrably proven not to have occurred, because it “felt” real. Considering how unreliable we are as thinking machines, without employing critical thinking, and your stated understanding of this, you seem to have abandoned it awfully quickly.
It sounds more like you’ve invented a conversion narrative in a poor attempt to deceive.
You’re missing the point… As she states, it’s about the “knowing” in the depths of your soul rather than a knowing that can be translated into words. Her background with science and atheism only gives more credit to the life-transformative power of such an experience. I understand your skepticism, however, I can assure you that this experience of hers is not unique and that many of us all over the planet are now making our connections with this higher state of consciousness having had similar belief systems (or lack thereof). Perhaps one day, you too may be lucky enough to have such an experience, until then however, maybe you should open your mind a little and think twice before dismissing something simply because you can’t explain it. After all, that’s the point this woman is trying to make.
She was “tripping” on an psychoactive drug. The god issue was something that she had been battling with herself, if this came out during her session. Like all trips, people see and feel how and what they are feeling before they take the substance. Your demons(if you have them) will come out one way or another.
She got the answer she wanted to hear (from her own mind). Im very open minded, but I just cant see why we have to so quickly keep substituting rational explanations for the divine.
You are “tripping” on a psychoactive drug right now. The needing proof issue is something that you have been battling with yourself, since this comes out of your consciousness. Like all trips, people see and feel how they are already feeling. Your ignorance (you have it) will come out one way or another.
You are giving yourself the answers you want to hear (from your own mind). You’re not open minded, because you already don’t want to have to believe that there is a shred of “reality” in this writeup, and everything you say and do attempts to support your pre-existing belief. You can’t see why we have to so quickly substitute chemicals and equations for the divine because you have never experienced what we are talking about.
Anecdotal(hallucinations) evidence does not constitute claims of a divine being… lol You want to believe so bad that you alter your mind to justify it.
You must be mistaking me with someone else. Either that or you’re imagining things, because I’ve never made claims of a divine being.
My mistake… 🙂
Have you ever had a break through amount of DMT? Experience is the greatest teacher.
Nope, but I know that whatever I experience through using DMT, I cannot conclude as actual evidence…
Anecdotal evidence does not equal fact.
You keep saying that. And that’s why we keep telling you to go experience it for yourself then. There’s nothing anecdotal about your own direct experience.
Again well said. The mind is like a parachute it works best when it is open-Frank Zappa.
A note to all. There are many paths up the mountain. The only one wasting time is the one telling others they are going the wrong way.
DMT can set you free 🙂
No, there isn’t. So what?
One cannot simply accept as true something that can’t be explained either, however, we have an explanation that can be tested; DMT causes it through a chemical process.
Since others have asked the same question and gotten the opposite response, we can assume, because of their mutual contradiction, that neither experience is likely real. Are there gods? DMT doesn’t provide an answer.
The individual I know of who had the opposite experience also had a deep knowing that what he experienced was real and true and saw the workings of the mind and knew that we are part of the universe (neither terribly profound, and quite obvious). Yet, he came away knowing it to be true.
So, who is right? Is one lying? No.
Ppls experiences also seem to be influenced by what they think about beforehand. An atheist who decides to ask that question and wonders, “what happens if the answer is yes?” May very well get a “yes”… And of course the requisite ” knowing” .
That’s a serious problem. All experiences with DMT are different.
There really isn’t any more to this discussion unless you want to take it to “is not” “is to”.
M3EEKS, Perhaps you’re familiar with the work done at Johns Hopkins with psilocybin. The scientists involved in the study have adopted the term “mystical experience” to describe what happens at the height of an intense psychedelic experience. Now, an atheist might look at that term and think “mystical experience” has something to do with the “supernatural.” Well, that’s not the case. A mystical experience, as described in the study, is an altered state of consciousness which exhibits defining characteristics that are associated with this state of mind.
The experience is, in a sense, universal in that anyone who has it will experience these defining characteristics. Of course, the universal archetypes that experiences are nevertheless filtered through the unique personality of the individual, and so in that regard they can be individualistic. For instance, if a Christian smokes DMT, he might believe he encountered God at the height of the experience; if an atheist smoked DMT, he might come down with a description like, “It felt as though I glimpsed a higher dimension.”
Now, of course, the reason that a Christian might say God is because as a religious person, that is the most profound concept the Christian is aware of, and so to describe this subjective experience, they’re naturally drawn to use such language as “God” or the “Beatific vision” or a feeling of “agapé,” likewise the atheist, in attempting to describe this experience, will often use phrases such as “beyond dimensionality” or “fourth-dimensional,” because often a “higher dimension” is the most profound concept that the atheist is familiar with. However, while the Christian may believe they had a direct experience with the divine, the atheist understands that this was only the subjective impression, it only felt as though he or she was glimpsing a “higher dimension.”
In philosophy, these sort of concepts are referred to as the Monad or the Absolute, the feeling that all time has become co-present; all past, present, and future somehow experienced simultaneously. Now, to an atheist, that might be expressed as a “higher dimension,” and to a theist, that might be expressed as “God.” Hindus refer to this as Brahman, and this is the impression they have when they undergo “samadhi,” which is the Hindu term for mystical experience or this altered state of consciousness.
Now, the issue that I believe most atheists who lack psychedelic experiences have is that they somehow think this is an argument for the God-entity that they’ve spent their tenure as an atheist rejecting. They fail to see the bigger picture here, and I believe the scientific evidence is piling on that such “mystical experiences” do, in fact, exist, and they’re a potential in each and everyone one of us. What is implied is something more akin to a Perennial philosophy.
Perennial philosophy is the notion that at the root of all major religions lies average individuals, human as you and I, who sometime in their lifetime had a “mystical experience.” And so, people like Jesus, Muhammad, and Gautama were simply mortal men who sometime in their lifetimes had this colossal altered state of consciousness occur, and when each began to discuss their experiences, each one of ’em alas became the founder of a religion. I think the atheist could at least agree, even if they’ve not had the experience, that this colossal transformation of consciousness could very well explain religion. That a person living thousands of years ago, such as Gautama or Jesus, who had undergone this titanic altered state would most likely attributed to the divinity of the religions they had been influenced by. So, Jesus, being influenced by Hebraism attributed to “the Father,” while Gautama, being influenced by Buddhism, attributed it to Brahman or Nirvana.
Now, that doesn’t mean you have to be part of a religion to have a mystical experience or that you necessarily have to attribute your experience to God, Brahman, or even a higher dimension for that matter. This phenomenon transcends religion, essentially, because it is a phenomenon in consciousness, and most people’s descriptions usually are akin to a philosophical Absolute, whether it be God, hyperspace, Brahman, or an extraterrestrial eons and eons ahead of the human race in evolution, etc. People tend towards these profound metaphors whether religious or involving a seeming glimpse into a higher topological manifold.
People use the language they have to describe experiences that they don’t know what else to call. language is inadequate in many cases because they haven’t been given language for that experience. If a person never experienced snow and had no word for it what would they call it?
I had a experience years ago when I went to Providence RI to look at Brown University where I ended up going to college. I remember feeling something there – I had no word for the experience so for years I called it an ETHOs FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD iT WAS AN UNFAMILIAR EXPERIENCE TO ME.
I LATER realized, it was the Presence of the Holy Spirit, GOd was leading me to go there. the word PRovidence means GOD’s PRovision.
it was a spiritual message AND he was leading me to go there -I now believe Both are true.
The first time I experienced the Holy Spirit was when someone prayed over me and I felt a tingly energy on my head. I asked “what I that?” and she said ‘its the holy spirit”
I believe many of us have experience this many times without realizing or understanding what it was.
God says to us later ” remember that time you felt THAT? Well that was ME guiding you! So we will realize he was guiding our lives.
I remember having the same feeling as I rode my bike on street where a guy who later became my boyfriend, lived. I felt it at a music camp. I am a lifelong musician. it is my calling.
I played piano since 3 and had the thought as a kid ‘I am put on earth to do music and it is holy’
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There are thousands of cases of near death experiences in which people report being non-locally aware (ie. floating around without a body) and were aware of and able to verify specific things that DID demonstrably happen during their “experience” (conversations & events in far away places, etc.) which they would otherwise not be able to know. So I guess you weren’t aware of that. And how is the claim of floating around without a body something that could “demonstrably” be verified or debunked either way, “scientifically”? It can’t. Yet you want to use the inherent intangibility of the subject itself to discredit an experience someone had. This is the problem with “critical thinkers” such as yourself, and the entire point of the article which clearly went over your head. This is a subject which cannot be understood intellectually in any capacity. What she is saying is you will never know God by studying texts and equations, God is something that can only be experienced directly, and the direct experience of God unlocks a knowing, a memory, in a sense, which transcends intellectual understanding. The psychedelic state is just as real as anything else one can experience, and the important thing to remember is that DMT is produced by your body and is an active part of your brain chemistry stew in the normal waking state. You are the ingorant one here; denouncing an experience you have never had. Very unscientific as well. It may sound like the author invented a conversion narrative to you, but that is an uneducated opinion. To me, it sounds like you have never inhaled vaporized 5-MeO-DMT.
You’re over thinking it… It’s only the subconscious mind coming out to play. She got the answer shes always wanted to know and hear from her own minds perception. Why are you so quick to accept that someone inhaling a powerful psychoactive substance (who obviously has issues with the divine in her own life) has suddenly learned the answer to the universe?
There are many others who call themselves religious, and take DMT who do not get that same answer, what do you say then? That this god chooses who he wants to enlighten?
“There are many others who call themselves religious, and take DMT who do not get that same answer”. Lol. That’s surely not some bullshit you just pulled out of your ass. Would you mind citing your (very reliable, I’m sure) source for that information?
The thing is, unlike yourself, I have actually experienced DMT, and I know many people who have. There is not a single one including myself who says that their understanding of life was not profoundly altered by their experience, and I can easily call bullshit there because I actually know what it does, and jostle you to the core is what it does. I’m not saying that everyone gets introduced to “God” to the degree that the author was, but EVERYONE experiences SOMETHING which clearly shows them that reality is not what we think it is, and there are forms of existence and intelligence which we can barely imagine from our current and extremely limited state.
DMT is floating around in your brain right now. Your body is constantly producing it to keep your brain chemistry in balance. Same with your dog, your cat, your goldfish… Thus, I laugh every time you call it a “psychoactive drug”. This is quite a misnomer, and clearly shows your angle of “education” on the subject. DMT is a naturally occuring neurochemical which is a vital part of any living beings cognitive function, including plants. Every living being has DMT inside of their brain. And thus, although we do not yet understand the reason for its proliferation in nature, it clearly plays a vitally important role in the “rendering” of reality as experienced by a conscious being since DMT is always in our brains. No, really though. You yourself are “tripping on a psychoactive drug” ALL THE TIME. Look it up, please. Educate yourself.
Speaking with you about this subject is like having you describe a landscape to me blindfolded. I already know what the landscape looks like, so it is pointless for you to derscribe it to me, because you could never describe it better than I can already see it. But if you’d like to keep making yourself look silly, go right ahead.
Yes. It. Is. “Psychoactive”. It crosses the blood brain barrier and does what? Affects what….?
Is the drug causing some (not all) to experience this? Yes.
Yep psych…o’ active. Dictionary or Goole will help you.
Seeing is NOT believing. Experiencing is NOT knowing.
Blue dress or white dress? Very reliable observation skills aren’t something we have, therefore we test and study….but you have to be willing to accept the obvious, no matter how ‘real’ it felt.
“It crosses the blood brain barrier and does what?” DMT is crossing your blood brain barrier right now. Our brains are constantly soaked in DMT. We, and every other living being, are never, ever without its “affect”. And this is what I am trying to explain to you people. If you define it as a “psychoactive drug”, then you are actually saying that life is just a DMT trip. Because we are “under its affect” 100% of the time while we are alive.
Anecdotal evidence is not actual evidence… Thats what this all boils down to.
anecdotal evidence is precisely that. It is the most proper form of observed evidence that science can go by. Wanksta and M3EEKS, I believe The Messenger is more correct in this whole dialogue. It cannot be “proven” one way or the other and it is only subjectively measured by the experience in and of itself. There is no x-ray or CT scan that will verify your disproof of the viability of such a reality. Be more open minded and a little less ignorant regarding this.
But what about those who have experienced it for themselves and didnt receive any messages from a divine being? I think the mind of the person taking DMT has a major influence of what makes them experience what they experience. But neither of us have definitive proof of what they are actually experiencing, therefore this is all speculation. And speculation is hardly evidence for a deity…
True true
Also, you believe that an atom is made up of a proton, neutron, and electron, right? We do because scientists have found this out but have YOU actually seen it for yourself?? I’m just pointing out inconsistencies. You believe the composition of the atom because scientists told you that’s what it’s made of but you’ve never actually seen it, right?
Right, but the difference is, if I wanted to see it for myself, I could. Inhaling DMT wont give me the same result EVERY TIME.
Thats the difference between pseudoscience and actual science.
Wanksta, I’ve won the argument, hands down, so please go ahead and do what you know you’re going to do- huff as much DMT as your balls can handle
lol If you have to tell me that youve won the argument, then you definitely lost. Nice try, though. No rebuttal huh?
No bro. He’s right. You lost. His argument is that you need to experience it in order to understand. Your argument is you refuse to experience it because you already know what it’s like. (from your own mind).
/thread
No, you won, Wanksta85. Just pulling your chain
By the way, I think I’ve won based purely on the fact that I’m arguing with someone who holds the screen name “Wanksta,” coupled with an equally ridiculous picture. BOOOM!! Whatcha got, Wanksta!? Hit me back!!
Good one… what are you 5?
Cmon Wanksta
What about them? I am one of them, I’d be glad to clear it up for you. I have had a few experiences where no “divine being” was encountered, and the experience was certainly no less divine. As I mentioned in my previous post, NOT EVERYBODY ALWAYS ENCOUNTERS A DEITY, but EVERYBODY experiences SOMETHING that shows them that reality is not what we think it is, and there is intelligence and existence which exists in spaces that we know nothing about. Each experience can be vastly different, they can be full of deities or completely solitary, but this is always the universal message that the experience always instills.
But how can you say or know those “spaces” are real? For fucks sake youve induced yourself into a dream state… now everything in the dream is somehow reality? Makes no sense.
Because I have been inside of those spaces! Lol. You will never get it until you vaporize and inhale 45mg of NN-DMT. Until then, keep on telling yourself what you want to hear, (from your own mind).
When you say be more “open minded”: I cant just tell myself… “Well this lady says she knows there’s a god because of her DMT trip, so maybe there is?”
Skepticism is not being open minded, sorry. Being open minded is.. which you clearly are not. You pretend you are trying to be scientific, but you are not. You already know what you believe and will fight to keep it that way.
Trust me, I would love to believe that there is something else out there. I really would. But in order for my brain to fully accept that fact, I have to see it, then see it again… not under any influences.
I’m going to say one last thing to you to prove how badly you are wrong, and how much you need too open up.
“I would love to believe that there is something else out there. I
really would. But in order for my brain to fully accept that fact, I
have to see it, then see it again… not under any influences.”
Well guess what…. this is possible.
And I’m not going to say any more than that. I’ll leave the rest to you. But there are certainly ways you can do exactly that without any “outside” influence. You can generate an experience of that calibur completely on your own. But you have to be open to the possibility of it first or you will never be able to go through the necessary motions to get you there.
An experience like that is not going to come and sit in your lap. It will take effort. Research… practice. You have to want it….
So do you really want to believe that there is something else out there? Cuz I can’t say that’s what it sounds like to me.
Cheers bruh.
“An experience like that is not going to come and sit in your lap. It
will take effort. Research… practice. You have to want it….”
lmao Thats like saying, you have to convince yourself to see shit that isnt really there. Then when you “see” it, you have to interpret it as intelligent beings and “spaces” in because, well, you cant explain it…
Na, Im good…
No, that’s not what I said, that’s what you said. I said “effort, research, and practice”. You said “convince yourself”. Very different concepts. What I am suggesting wouldn’t require any self-convincing, just a belief system that doesn’t discredit something before trying it.
I dont have to try something to understand that hallucinating is not credible evidence for intelligent beings to communicate with us. Grow up.
You are “hallucinating” right now silly. Your brain (you) lives in a dark room, remember? You know all that stuff you’re “seeing”… all that stuff you’re “feeling”? Well, your brain is not actually seeing or feeling anything. What you are seeing and feeling is an electrical signal that tells your brain (you) that you are. Your experience of life is a code that your brain is constantly analyzing. Actually, literally, scientifically speaking. If you want to do away with pseudo-science, then this is as real as it gets. Life is literally all a big hallucination.
Go ahead, prove me wrong. Oh wait, you can’t. And the more you dig into the wild world of neuroscience, the more you realize how little we know. So go right ahead, bro.
I cant prove a negative. Its all speculation… another version of “I dont know, therefore GOD”, but now it’s “I dont know, therefore Im not real”
Uhh no.. this is just another version of you having no clue what is going on in this conversation.
There is no negative to prove, there is no speculation….
We know for a fact that our experience of life is nothing but electrical signals interpreted by our brain. That is a fact, a very well known one. So what on earth are you even talking about?
Wow, really? I realize that. We dont really know what the fuck is going on, but to say that people hallucinating other people does not equal evidence for divinity or interdimensional beings.
Get. The. Fuck. Over. Yourself.
You don’t realize anything, bro. You don’t even understand the point I’m making, and you definitely haven’t acknowledged it. What you just said barely makes sense, and it has no context. You are making stuff up, arguing against nothing, and dragging the conversation around in circles. You are in your own sad, little world, and might as well be talking to yourself 🙁
Typical behavior from someone with a confirmation bias.
You sir, are the one who needs to get over yourself.
Don’t think of it as accepting that there is “something else” out there, think of it as there may be MANY things else out there, and you cannot afford to not find out.
Mathematically, it is likely that there ARE many things out there… But why can’t I afford to find out?
Pseudoscience. That is all.
Quantum mechanics. That is all.
This dude-bro (The Messenger…lol) is using the silly argument of “You can’t possibly know what WE have experienced, unless you also try the same illegal drug as us!”. That’s such a silly argument. Silly! Some of us would prefer not to mess around with illegal drugs, just because it might “open our minds” (read : “Make us high”).
“Be open minded” doesn’t mean be willing to agree with her experience, it means be willing to have your own experience, especially before forming an opinion. That way if and when you do form an opinion, it is at least less ignorant.
Pseudoscience. I dont need it.
You clearly need lots of quantum mechanics though.
and you’re saying there isn’t a god because of your ongoing oxygen trip
Wrong. Anecdotal evidence = testimonies. Testimonies is the main source of evidence in our courts, and anecdotal evidence is how our judicial system works. Do you know why it works? Because of the inherent ability of intelligent human beings to use anecdotal evidence to discern fact, or what is most likely to be fact. This practice is trusted every day all around the world to convict a guilty person of a crime, or to clear the name of an innocent one. Sure, mistakes are made sometimes, but the majority of the volume processed is processed correctly.
Also, when you get the account of one, or a few people, this is infinitely more “anecdotal” than a survey en masse, where 1000+ cases are studied. When you look at data in bulk rather than in each specific case, that is when the common threads come to the surface. So while the accounts of 5 people who did DMT may be anecdotal, the combined accounts of 5000 people who did DMT is not anecdotal in the least.
We now have the ability to combine scientific research with the experiences themselves on a wide scale that spans space, time, people and generations, and as much as you would like to think that this is “anecdotal” simply because the data pool consists of subjective experiences, this is simply not the case.
“Testimonies is the main source of evidence in our courts, and anecdotal evidence is how our judicial system works.”
Rrrrriiiht, because people dont lie?
If you observe something you have to be able to TEST that observation and if you observe it under the same cicrumstances over and over and over and over and over and over until it cannot be disproven then it becomes evidence…
What are you even talking about? Testimonies ARE the way our court system works. And testimonies are only anecdotal to a point. One person can lie, but it doesn’t matter if 20 other people saw them commit the crime they are lying about. That’s the way anecdotal evidence works… it adds up, and it’s only anecdotal to a point. Eventually the truth can be discerned with the sum of enough “anecdotes”.
Except those people aren’t/weren’t hallucinating… smh
Correct. They probably aren’t/weren’t, due to to the consistencies in their experiences regardless of backgrounds, expectations or settings. A random subconsciously generated and individualized hallucinatory episode should not show so many common threads when comparing a large volume of accounts from so many different people. Shake your head harder.
I know many people who have experienced the same effects when taking hallucinogenics , including myself.
Cool story bro. Does it have a point? Because it just sounds like you’re agreeing with me.
You used the fery fact that people experienced the same thing under DMT as evidence. implying that people don’t regularly experience the same thing when taking a hallucinogen. I believe its you who seems to be confused…
I know what DMT is. I know it induces our dream state when we sleep. Ive seen plenty of documentaries on it and have read through various eperiences. And yes, it is not considered a substance, but it has PSYCHOACTIVE characteristics.
So why is a “psychoactive” present in our brains, all the time. Can you explain that one to me?
Nobody will ever be able to answer that question. Sigmund Freud and many others have theories as to WHY we dream, but to ask what DMT is in our brain for is irrelevant. And to not know the answer to that question, then substitute a higher power in the question is nothing, but wishful thinking.
Huh? Dreaming? No man, DMT is ALWAYS in your body and in your brain. Always. You are tripping on DMT RIGHT NOW BRO. And you think that asking why a “psychoactive” chemical is always inside of our brain is irrelevant? Haha… wow.. how’d you come to that conclusion? Actually you know what, I don’t even wanna know. Why don’t you save yourself the effort with the logic acrobatics there, your reasoning train is getting a little off track, I think I’m gonna sign off now. You’ve lost this argument a few times now and you don’t even really seem to understand where you are in this conversation. Most of what I say goes right over your head, and you keep arguing against points that I have never made. So have a good life man! Peace and blessings! Good luck with all of that pessimism and doubt. You’re gonna need it! (the luck) 😉
No DMT is only induced when you sleep or die…
Oh really? Haha. Nice try professor, but that’s just wishful thinking and a lack of research on your part. Our body produces MORE of it when you’re born, sleep, die, or sometimes under high stress, but DMT is ALWAYS in our bodies at baseline. Always. If you took a piss right now DMT would be in your urine sample. If you took a tissue sample from your lungs, there would be DMT in it. You know what else is in your lungs? Receptor points and other chemicals which greatly aid and facilitate the synthesis, as well as the transport of DMT into your bloodstream. If you took a blood sample right now, it would have DMT in it. Your blood, which always has DMT in it, is always interacting with your brain. Sorry man… but I’ve done too much research on the subject. Your 2 minutes of Googling isn’t going to cut it here.
Rrrrright yeah I get the fact that DMT is in our body lol, but when I use words like “INDUCED”, I meant it as a form of being triggered. When you sleep or die, you TRIGGER the EXPERIENCE of DMT (you know, what we’ve been talking about this whole time). You dont experience the actual affects of what we’ve been talking about while taking a piss.
So it’s nice that you know so much about it, but again your point is invalid.
You get it now that I have explained it to you, but only for that reason. Rewind to two comments ago and you had no clue, and were totally wrong, so congratulations for that.
My point is very valid, you just are not able to comprehend it. I’ll try to make this as concise as possible;
DMT is always in your blood stream, bro. ALWAYS.
YOUR BLOOD INTERACTS WITH YOUR BRAIN 24/7
DMT IS “PSYCHOACTIVE” (according to you)
YOU ARE HIGH ON A PSYCHOACTIVE SUBSTANCE 24/7 BRO.
Because DMT is ALWAYS in your blood/brain.
And thus, according to your own definitions, waking life itself is an “experience of DMT”. Whatever DMT is doing to you during an induced trip, it is doing to you all the time, albeit at a more mild and constantly regulated level.
Ok? Understand yet?
Did you just make a Freud reference, how antiquated of you.
You don’t know what DMT is, you have an idea of what it is. “Know” is a pretty arrogant word for someone void of experience. I am getting a very “southern baptist” type of close mindedness vibe from you wanksta. And it sounds like you are quite content going through life with as many limitations as you can carry. What a shitty journey bro. You are envied by no one.
lol Im an atheist with the most open mind anyone can have. I also live my life through reason and evidence-based thinking. You have no real evidence for your claims, besides yourself. Anecdotal evidence isnt evidence.
in response to this comment, and to address ALL commenters and readers
Anecdotal evidence is NOT evidence? YES IT IS!! All testimony is evidence. The whole legal system is based on testimonies – witnesses testifying to events that they saw, it is
considered evidence. That is why they bother having witnesses do it. If one
person or 12 people say they saw a blue truck on a particular corner in a place
at the same time, that is not evidence? How do you explain that they saw it?
They are lying, or are all lying? Maybe. But it doesn’t prove they are lying.
THey may be telling the truth.
Do you know any people? How about the family you grew up in? Would you believe
them if they said they saw that truck on that corner? Do you trust them not to
lie to you? Most of have people who we KNOW and would trust so if they told us
they saw something, we would believe it because they have credibility for US
That is part of the purpose of testimony. When someone tells us something we
need to ask ourselves – if they are lying – why would they lie? what would be
their motive?
when someone writes a book and says they saw something or something happened,
and they make a lot of money, a reasonable question is whether they made it up
to sell books. But if it is free, what is the motive to lie? So then it is more
trustable.
I WRITE on my website Testimonies of GOd being real and answering my prayers
and telling me things MY books are FREE so people do not say “oh maybe she
made it up to make money”. I don’t want that idea to be a stumbling block
to people in believing what I testify to.
But you don’t need to take my word for it anyway, only use it as an inspiration
or inducement to try the same things yourself -use the scientific method, which
is to take a hypothesis and test it.
The truth of GOD can be EASILY proven this way by the scientific method. Pray
to God for something. If the prayer gets answered 10 times, it would be
disingenuous to argue that NOTHING is answering that prayer. SOMETHING exists
and is responding. THEN it becomes a theological question to understand more
about what that something actually is. Is it a Trinity? Is it the elephant God
Ganesh? Is it Jesus? and there are ways to deduce that too.
If God heals you of a disease when you pray in the name of Jesus, that is
evidence that JESUS is real. If it doesn’t work when you pray in the name of
Moses, Buddah, Ganesh etc that is evidence that those names and the spirits
they invoke do not have that power or don’t exist.
Jesus healed people as a TESTIMONY that he was real, the savior of the world
that he was who he said he was in the new testament. He gave HIS followers
authority to do the same thing. I have done it. I have rebuked cancer, asthma-,
depress-. in Jesus name. IT works. the disease was gone.
All mental and physical illnesses are caused by demonic spirits whose
‘assignments” are the names of the disease Jesus rebuked them and gave his
followers authority to do it.
I had a brown blob appear on my hand in prison. 4 guards saw it and said
“what is that thing?” I heard the word Melanoma” I my spirit God
was telling me what it was. I asked god “what should I do” He said “pray
for it to go away” I said “I rebuke this melanoma in Jesus name”
and it was gone overnight. I wasn’t the only one who saw it and I wasn’t the
only one who saw it gone. It was no “hallucination”
The presence that these people describe feeling while using whatever drugs – is
real. It is not a hallucination. The next step is to explore theologically –
which is to read the bible and PRAY to God or whatever other deities and see
WHAT HAPPENS
I had an experience YEARS ago at a worship service of a church where I felt
love flooding through me as they worshipped JESUS so I knew it had something to
do with JESUS by calling on HIS name they were invoking HIS spirit.
When someone calls OUR name we turn our heads and come over. same with spirits
whether it is jesus or the devil.
The Paris shooting was an example of the same thing. The band and audience were
singing a song “Kiss the devil” when the shooting erupted. That is
because they were invoking HIS spirit and this is what happens when that
happens. The presence of the devil is not LOVE.
People in prisons in solitary all hear voices speaking to them. I spent 8
months in solitary so I know. THey are TOLD by the mental health people who are
atheists, that they are hallucinating. So they get distressed thinking they are
going crazy. They are NOT hallucinating. The spirits talking to them are REAL.
The bible says there are two sources of thought GOd and the demonic. James ch 3
says there is wisdom from above and from below.
Psychiatrists 2nd question is always “Do you hear voices” and if
anyone says yes they are trained to call it an auditory hallucination and say
they are psychotic a supposed symptom of schizophrenia which is a NONSENSE
LABEL.
EVERYONE hears voices, as thoughts in our heads They come from t
he spiritual realm. The word INSPIRATION means A SPIRIT GOES INTO IT. They come
from God or demons.
GOd’s spirit brings PEACE. and His presence is LOVE.
Demons harangue, mock, tempt peole to sin, say negative things like
“nobody likes you, go kill yourseolf or someone else, etc” They
produce anxiety and fear.
We need courses in APPLIED THEOLOGY
the purpose is to USE the scientific method to determine theological questions.
Try praying different prayers to whatever entities and gives us the report.
This course should happen from k-12, through college.
People take all kinds of theology and philosophy classes reading all kinds of
beliefs and are NOT taught to test it empirically to figure out what is true.
They read the books and have no idea.
It is not NON RATIONAL to pray and use the scientific method. It is rational.
It is evidence.
God has been answering MY Prayers for 20 years, in ways that are verifiable. In
my case He changes the weather all the time.
I am in nyc. I asked GOd to make it 70 on Christmas. It was. It set a record.
He did the same thing 2 years ago. This is obviously verifiable. Is all of NY
enough witnesses for you?
During Hurricane Sandy I asked God to “please keep the power on near
me” He said “stay by the Grace building which sits on 43 street in
midtown Manhattan, in a place he had found for me a year earlier. As I sat
there, HE said to me TESTIMONY and NOAH FOUND GRACE IN THE EYES OF THE LORD
which is from Genesis.
God answered the prayer. ALL of Lower Manhattan lost power and was drenched up
to 42 st. ON my side of the GRACE building 43 we had power and were dry. That
is a MILLION Witnesses that God is real AND ANSWERS PRAYERS.
THERE ARE bILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON EARTH AND HISTORICALLY WHO BELIEVE IN GOD
BECAUSE HE DOES ANSWER THEIR PRAYERS ALL THE TIME. FAITH IS NOT BLIND. IT IS
BUILT ON EVIDENCE.
USE YOUR RATIONAL MIND TO TRY PRAYING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!
tHE BIBLE also says that God wants us to worship him in spirit and truth. so
there becomes a point where he may only answer prayers when we get our theology
correct, because he does not want us to believe lies about him. He wants us to
know that Jesus IS the savior for mankind. Hence if just say “Please God
heal me” he may or may not do it. Sometimes he does. Other times he wants
that person to say In the name of Jesus so they will realize that Jesus IS the
messiah – especially with Jews. Because they are brought up thinking they HAVE
god and don’t need Jesus, which is FALSE. Everyone needs Jesus to go to heaven.
He is our ticket to heaven to this experience of the presence of God that these
people are testifying to with their various drug experiences.
Rather than thinking these people made up their experiences, it is more
productive to take the premise that they are probably telling the truth, but
what is the explanation. We need to study theology to find it out. That is why
theology books are written
The bible is not myth. It is a HISTORY book of WHO god is and what he said and
what he wants from us in relationship to him.
God gives us personal experiences by answering prayers and talking to us and
letting us feel his presence as a way of confirming that the bible is true – so
that we will also believe the things it says about the future to gain
credilibyt, like in any relationship.
Many many prophecies given by the prophets have come true – that is verifiable
history and it gives credibility. One can FEEL the presence of GOD when reading
a bible God’s PEACE, this is because it is an IMPARTATION of HIS SPIRIT it is not
just mental information ideas. It is more than that.
MUSIC does this too. IT transmits spirits. It is an impartation. That is why it
affects peoples thoughts and emotions so powerfully. ALL thoughts and emotions
are caused by various spirits.
Many cultures understood this. When I was in College I spent a year studyihg
this. The Hindus and ancient greeks had theories of how different scales (or
ragas) invoked different emotional states – which was caused by different
spirits. Christian theology is similar. It says that God or demonic spirits are
invoked by whatever spirit is named. It is all true.
I have played piano since 3. I remember having the thought as a kid “I am
put on earth to do music and it is holy” This idea came from God.
I remember one time I was playng and my mother was trying to talk to me. I had
the thought “doesn’t she know this is holy and she shouldn’t
interrupt?”
All my life when I play people have said to me “when you play there is a
peace on you” that is from the presence of GOD.
I have also felt extreme peace walking in a park in a jewish neighborhood on
Shabbat (it is God’s presence and Peace and in Israel, at the Sea of Galilee
where Jesus walked on the water That was the most powerful. it is a palpable
experience.
I had Asked God to send me a teacher. A guy moved into the building next door
and went to my church so I met him. He was God’s answer to my prayer. HE had a
peace on HIM that was palpable. One could feel it just next to him. It was
magnetic. I went to see him to see how he got it. It was from his faith and
relationship with Jesus. He was a Pentecostal from Russia. His name ILYA means
ELIJAH in Russian who was one of the greatest prophets. I am also named after a
prophetess This is a the sign of a call on a person’s life. ANYONE named after
a prophet is called by God to become one. This is obvious to me now. God
inspires our parents to name us, and they don’t even realize whey. They just
like the name, sometimes. Mine didn’t even know my name was in the bible.
Another sign of the call on me is my gift with music . In the old testament the
musicians were prophets. Their JOB is to invoke Gods presence so He can speak
to us and heal us and do business with us and TO SPEAK FOR HIM. WHICH IS WHY I
ALSO WRITE.
no OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET SOLD THEIR MESSAGES WHIC HIS WHY MINE ARE FREE.
GOD HAS GIVEN ME MANY EXPERIENCES IN TESTIMONY THAT HE IS REAL. AND TO WARN
PEOPLE ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS.
tHE METNAL HEALTH system is rooted in an atheistic worldview and is dangerous
for everyone. The drugs ruin peoples brains. they interfere with clear
thinking. They block thoughts – all thoughts, not just bad thoughts. nobody can
think clearly on them. They also interfere with creativity and spiritual
experiences. I have been praying in tongues since I was baptized in l990. It is
the mechanism by which God moves and answers prayers. I could not do it on the
psych drugs. It has been argued that the 3rd eye is a spiritual channel for us
and it Is in the pineal gland. The psych drugs have fluoride which calcify the
pineal gland, hampering its function.
I am a lifelong composer and heard no music in my head on those drugs. THEY ARE
SOUL MURDER. hEARING MUSIC IN YOUR HEAD IS NOT A HALLUCINATION IT IS
INSPIRATION. aLL MUSICIANS WHO WRITE MUSIC DO THIS.
I REMEMBER sitting on my bed hearing symphonies in my head. Either it was
coming from radio broadcasts and I was picking it up from fillings in my teeth,
which has happened or it was from the spiritual realm. I knew it wasn’t from
ME. I believe it was the former. I asked God about this and all the experiences
I have had.
God speaks to us constantly when we are in relationship to him and he has a
sense of humor. he would have to, with all the stupidity of mankind.
God gives us all a perfectly good brain and at age 18 many people decide that
it is a good idea to destroy their brain by drinking alcohol and taking other
drugs like pot, lsd etc. BAD IDEA. Alcohol causes brain damage. That is why
people do idiotic things on it. IT is an opening for DEMONC spirits. That is
why liquor stores say WINE LIQUOR AND SPIRITS.
These drugs open people to the spiritual realm and changes their paradigm of
the world, but it is not good or necessary to keep using htem. It is better to
just pray you will have the same experience without doing brain damage. Worship
music is the way to invoke the presence of God.
Psych drugs and hallucinogens open people to demonic spirits whose purpose is
mind control. They put people in a hypnotic state.
Timothy Leary pushed LSd and admitted he was funded by the CIA . it was part of
a mind control experience with the Hippy Generation. Aldous Huxley who was an
agent of TAVISTOCK institute in London, a think tank whose purpose is mind
control and runs all the think tanks in the US sent Huxley to the US to
introduce LSD.
Huxley wrote BRAVE NEW WORLD to expose their agenda. It is an illuminati
blueprint. They want a society where EVERYONE is drugged, for mind control. In
the book they used SOMA a feel good drug. Pot destroys peoples ambition .It was
used to derail the anti-war movement by making people sit around giggling at
nothing staring at their navels. it worked.
They are now pushing drugs again to this generation for the same purpose. Mind
control. We are now in the society prophesied in that book. People are
distracted by entertainment, mindless sex and sports and are drugged into a
hypnotic state so they can be more easily brainwashed. All the mass shootings
are done by people who were on psych drugs. they cause suicide and homicide.
Pot makes a lot of people paranoid since it is an opening for demonic srpitis.
THen they get sent to a psych ward, labeled paranoid schizophrenic and their
life is ruined taking these drugs forever. I had a boyfriend years ago this
happened to. It started with pot. I stopped using it at 20. It gave me a
headache and I never did it again.
Experimenting with anything can be dangerous. Before you do it, read up on what
you are considering doing. Ouija boards for example DO work and they are
dangerousl They open people up to demonic spirits and curses. I know this
personally. I used to use one with a friend and the same thing happened to both
of us – first our aunt died and then our mothers. Obviously this changed my
life.
not for the better. this is why I write to warn people what NOT to do.
The problem with being an atheist is that one can not fulfil God’s calling on
their life if one stays in that position. It is part of their testimony of what
they were before they get saved. Everyone has a calling. It says in Jeremiah 1
“I knew you before I formed you in the womb”
There are many people who are called to be prophets who warn about various
things. I call them God’s Atheist prophets.
They also see the hypocrisy in organizied religion, which is there because it
is infiltrated by demonic spirits to discredit it in many cases The devil does
evil in Jesus name to discredit Jesus. ANd many religious groups do not obey
god. If they did churches would all be open 24 hours.
some examples of atheist prophets are Bill maher, JESSE Ventura, Richard
Stallman. I also knew Carl Sagan>
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Schizophrenia is NOT a “serious mental disorder”
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NEVER AGAIN? IT never stopped! The mental health system is a front for Nazi
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That is incorrect. Conversations within hearing if the individual, yes. Blind testing has clearly demonstrated OBEs to be false experiences. At which point believer then add the time travel element to explain away the failure
Saying that is incorrect is incorrect. Meet Dr. Raymond Moody, a physician and psychologist who investigated Out-of-Body experiences in a very scientific manner. I guess you’ve never heard of him. His scientific standards may have been even higher than yours! Anyway, he has investigated the subject much more than you have, and he has documented quite a few cases in his books where people demonstrated clear and present knowledge of events outside of the room they were in during the time they purported to be “out of body”. Stuff they would not know unless their awareness was actually outside of their body.
And here is a website which summarizes the phenomena and presents a few examples from his books/case studies ;
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence02.html
And so, once again, you probably should have done more research before you decided what’s fact. For somebody so scientific, you seem to jump to conclusions rather quickly and without much investigation.
I am indeed aware of him. I think he needs to do more experiments with tighter controls.
Yeah of course you do. You have a confirmation bias.
In Terence Mckenna’s words, “you got ten minutes to spare to test out your hypothesis?”
he also said he “was a bard for the king”.
Label it psychoactive if you want, but if your body produces it, then it is only logical to assume that nature finds it necessary that we interact with it; regardless of our opinion of a particular testimony. Her experience is hers and hers alone. But your DMT experience is out there waiting for you, and you are only handicapping yourself by avoiding it. Don’t be so scared, step into the unknown.
you really couldn’t be further from the truth. this sounds like me a few years ago
Sad. Scared. Little ego. Hiding behind science. Go take one of these substances and do your own research and then see if everyone is just talking bullshit. Stop making excuses about why you won’t and go try it. If you are too scared then hold your peace forever and at least try to critically think a little bit more. What a fearful insecure little child. Good day to you sir.
I think you’re both right. She’s making a false claim so as to low ball the real psychedelic experience, which is truly transformative and brings us into contact with a “higher intelligence” for lack of a better term. Doblin, Lyon, McKenna, and Rogan, even Hicks are or were all CIA assets. Amber never quit her post at CNN, it changed is all. Cointelpro journalism and manufactured pop culture is well documented, and Reset.me is CIA all day. The psychedelics explosions in the US have been engineered by folks who in the past waged against the keepers of gnosis a pharmacratic inquisition to wipe out and co opt the real gateway to our collective consciousness. Luciferian inversions abound and MK Ultra loves psychedelics studies.
You all serve the same agenda, whether consciously or not- to lowball or distort the truth about the role psychedelics play in our history and lives now with tepid testimonials or links to CIA funded low balling documentaries, or propagating false materialist world views themselves destroyed by the very scientific community you claim to prefer getting your paradigm from.
Timothy Leary who promoted LSD admitted he was funded by the CIA.
Aldous Huxley came to the US to promote LSD as an agent of Tavistock a think tank in London that is all about MIND CONTROL. they run the think tanks in the US.
The mind control program MKULTRA by the CIA is still In operation. I was kidnapped by the cops and taken to Bellevue 2 years ago where they drugged me and later told me I had a conversation with 5 people of which I have not memory. One of the me that the drugs often ruin short term memory. So they knew what they were doing. They were either trying to get info out of me (to find out my identity since I don’t have it on my website and I write about all this) or to program me to do something, This is how they program assassins with the drugs. or both. I asked them what I spoke about and the dr said “the t 4 euthanasia program which is on my website – a program the Nazis used to kill mental patients with psych drugs.
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Complete and utter bullshit. If this person was any sort of scientist worth a damn he would realize that by taking DMT you are simply ingesting a chemical that interacts with other chemicals that in turn make you see and feel the natural world differently for a period of time. It’s just physics and science. Nothing more. Thinking that drugs are spiritual is to misuse drugs. They can create a short term sense of “Simulated Spirtuality” but that is all. Thinking they can bring you to someplace higher just shows a lack of understanding of how they really work.
take some DMT and see if you still have the same opinion.
my thoughts exactly.
Physics? What the hell are you talking about?
*Translation*
“Here take take this psychoactive substance that literally alters your consciousness and you tell me if you think there’s a god, because you cant explain that feeling maaannn.”
*Translation*
I’ve never done freebase DMT
*Translation*
“You havent seen my hallucinations, how can you say there isn’t a god?”
Anecdotal evidence doesnt not constitute for justification for a divine being… especially if your mind is altered.
Vaporize some DMT then. Find out how “anecdotal” the evidence is.
I dont have to. Ive read many peoples stories who have experienced with DMT and none of them had anything to do with god.
You know what else has nothing to do with god? This conversation. So I dunno why you keep bringing him up, or what point you’re even trying to argue with that statement. It doesn’t even really make sense in the context…
You know what else has nothing to do with god? This conversation. Since you don’t seem to be aware, we are talking about the possibility that DMT causes a dimensional shift in perception, which moves your awareness into any one of an infinite array of alternate dimensions, real “spaces” populated by infinite types of intelligences and beings. We are talking about the possibility that this is really happening, due to the overwhelming evidence that it is. I have no idea why you keep bringing up “god”, or what point you are even trying to make with that statement.
Ok, substitute “god” for “intelligence and beings”… My point stays the same.
Substitute “intelligent beings” for “god” and your point becomes demonstrably false. You don’t even realize how ignorant and silly you are being. You are just saying random shit now. I think it’s time for you to hang your head, go home, and sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done, bro. But hey, if you want to keep making your side of the argument look bad while giving me more rope to hang you with, please, by all means, why don’t you clarify what your point is for me.
LOL Still no logic behind the fact that seeing something under the influence of DMT somehow makes it a reality… More wishful thinking.
The one truth that we can all draw from this conversation, is that wanksta85 is a scared little bitch. Take some DMT you little girl. And its not about jumping to a conclusion. DMT is about being aware that there are too many conclusions to pick just one. To say you understand, yet are void of experience is beyond ignorant, it is a very hillbilly way allowing your mind to process. Its the same close mindedness that allows bigots to protest soldiers funerals. The details of what you believe may be different but its the same mindset nonetheless. Open up and allow life and beauty to astonish and amaze you from any direction. Never turn down an opportunity to expand your being; you will never be worse off for it. Sack up Sally.
lol The insults prove that you’re still an asshole throwing a hissy fit because someone doesn’t agree with your pseudoscience claims. I thought DMT was supposed to be a transcending experience and life changing experience? How can someone be so childish if their supposed to be of a higher consciousness?
Also, I do see the world through beauty everyday. I dont need an “experience” to appreciate ordered existence. We’re discovering the hidden secrets of the universe every day. The inverse square law of gravitation, fractals, the theory of relativity, the genome, THESE are BEAUTIFUL constructs.
Except the mountains of scientific evidence acquired by Dr. Strassman through his studies, which you keep skipping right over. Not to mention the fact that we cannot verify in any way that our normal sober waking experience is “real” any more than we can verify somebodies DMT experience. Have you heard about what happens when “science” tries to pinpoint the location of a particle in space and time? Well, long story short…. It can’t. There’s this little thing (pun intended) called quantum mechanics. It may seem like pseudo-science to you at first, but it is as real as real can be. Look into it sometime, and learn the troubling truth; We can’t even verify the solidity of our own reality, never mind the DMT one. Who was wishfully thinking again?
lol Enlighten me. What has Dr. Strassman scientifically proven through his studies?
He did a multiple year laboratory study on DMT with hundreds of subjects and wrote a little book about it called “The Spirit Molecule”. It’s one of the most comprehensive scientific studies ever done on DMT. And apparently, you know nothing about it. What a surprise.
See… Still no proof. Tell me what his studies have concluded SCIENTIFICALLY. Not just experiences….
What happened to “I’ve watched lots of documentaries” and “I know what DMT is”? I guess that was just some bullshit you made up too? Lol. It’s safe to say that if you missed Strassman’s documentary and you don’t know about his study, then you haven’t watched any documentaries and you don’t know shit about DMT… But that’s already been pretty clear throughout this conversation. Thanks for scientifically confirming everyone’s suspicion. Strassman’s work is the main SCIENTIFIC body of work on DMT, so if you missed it, you haven’t researched very hard, and all of your hypothesis have been based on false/incomplete pretenses.
So, Mr. Scientific, if you actually tried to be scientific at all – ie) look at the evidence – then you would have known that Dr. Strassman’s study goes a lot deeper than just documenting experiences. His study SCIENTIFICALLY discovered a lot of things. He discovered that DMT occurs naturally inside the human body. He confirmed its presence in multiple human organs. He proved that DMT is present inside the brain of multiple mammals, including humans. He proved the correlation between dreaming and DMT, proved DMTs role in gestation, death, waking life, explored its proliferation in nature, and scientifically uncovered strong indicators that the human Pineal gland synthesizes DMT, and has already proved for a fact that the pineal gland synthesizes DMT in rats (a mammal), and has SCIENTIFICALLY discovered many other interesting facts about DMT.
He explored the effects of the substance in great depth, scientifically. He is the one who SCIENTIFICALLY uncovered the fact that DMT is a naturally occuring neurochemical. Mmkay?
Try enlightening yourself next time. You look stupid less often that way.
“We can’t even verify the solidity of our own reality, never mind the DMT one.”
I rest my case.
You rest your case on what? Assumptions and a lack of real knowledge?
So what are you trying to say? That I’m wrong? Haha. If you think I’m wrong about that one, then you know absolutely nothing about real science.
Here is a video about one of the most famous experiments in this field that demonstrates what I am talking about. The science is 50+ years old already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4_0obIwQ_U
The video is meant for children and it’s only a few minutes long, so I’m hoping you’ll be able to pay attention until the end and understand it. I’m hoping you actually learn something this time, because you are starting to look prety silly when I cite proven scientific fact and you scoff at it and call it “pseudo-science” because you’re not that educated.
lol Did you just pull out your “jump to conclusions mat”? I rested my case, because you said “…Never mind the DMT one.”
If you cant even verify he solidity of the DMT experience, how can you create evidence based off of a subconscious reality?
What? Lol. Wow.. No, I just tried to explain quantum mechanics to you. You rested your case because you didn’t understand me.
You are completely skipping over points that I make, and twisting my words if not flat out replacing them with your own, and arguing against things that I never said in order to make yourself feel like you’re right. You refuse to take all of the evidence in fairly. Classic confirmation bias, and not scientific at all. The point that I made is; that you can’t verify the solidity of “normal”, sober, waking reality scientifically. We know this because of the most cutting edge (and extremely scientific) studies in quantum mechanics. “Waking life” is no more “scientifically verifiable” as “solid and real” than a DMT experience is, and your response to that makes no sense. You did not even address my point. In fact, you completely ignored it, and made up an argument that we weren’t having.
You are relentlessly claiming to be “very scientific”, yet when it comes to the most important and most cutting edge science of all (quantum mechanics), not only do you have no working knowledge, you refuse to even try to understand it.
Your hypocrisy is showing quite clearly my friend. And you are clearly a waste of my time… but I do find your ability to twist logic and live in your own world quite impressive.
I think your mind may just be too simple and closed to really get any of what is being discussed here. Which makes your own DMT experience urgently
necessary, at least for the sake of the people in your life, if not yourself.
I get it… Im not completely oblivious to the experience as I have shroomed many times (I know its not the same). My logic and point has nothing to do with experiencing it. Im looking at the big picture.
You’re basically just telling me that since you believe it to be true that you have experiences(under the influence of DMT) with an advanced being in a different dimension or god himself, that I am closed minded? Can you be any more pretentious.
I hope you read the entire thread before you commented…
What can you really be sure of, Wanksta? You think you can explain away, scientifically or biochemically, the process that is going on. You do know that we still don’t know alot about what goes on at the neurocellular level, right?? Wanksta says: “durrrr, you don’t know nothin’, it’s all justa bunch of chemicals in yur brain, man. i’m a science purson, durrr.”
No I cant explain it… But I also dont throw out my “jump to conclusions” mat and skip straight to the “GOD” square. Thats something someone does when they are looking for a higher power. I am looking for the truth.
Any true scientist knows that reality can not be proven.. Nothing can be proven to be the way it appears. Just because these chemicals make you’re brain appear different than usual doesn’t make the experience any less real. Whether the experience is “real” or not, it is the same experience. Even beyond that, what make’s an experience “real” does it have to be in our physical universe? What about on our plane of existence or in our dimension? Does something have to be able to be interpreted by our limited senses? The possibilities of what reality truly is are endless and scientists know that, they just tend to spend their time studying what the can interpret with our human senses and the limited abilities of our minds..
“… He would realize that…”
This was written by a woman.
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Claiming bullshit on something you’ve never experienced and would probably refuse if given the opportunity to? How scientific of you.
“If anyone with argument could do to you what DMT does to you, you would accept it in a hurry…” – Terence McKenna
Apply the scientific method. That hasn’t been done. It’s just an insubstantiated claim. You can’t exclude the possibility, or in this case probability, that you are wrong. Jumping to a conclusion because of perception and prejudice and preference is not scientific nor is it rational. The only thing suggested by this post is that in some people DMT causes a god delusion that seems very real. That is all that has been described.
That it’s in my body naturally doesn’t mean it isn’t psychoactive. It affects mental state and perception. That point – that it’s in the body already – isn’t necessarily even relevant. So what? I can dose you with L-Theanine and it will cause serotonin to be produced and will likely make you feel happy or relaxed. Everything about us is chemical and physical. Everything we think and feel are just that.
I’m sorry but, you don’t get to be right, just because. Fund some unbiased proper research and, if it demonstrates your claim could be true and it can be replicated, I will happily change my mind. Until then, I will stick to the most likely scenario; doses of DMT in excess of whats already naturally present in the brain, can cause very realistic delusions.
Apply the scientific method? You mean the way you did when you so concretely concluded that “OBEs are false experiences”? Lol. Nothing to say about being proven wrong about that either, hey? Your version of the scientific method seems to involve ignoring things that are inconvenient for you. Which, isn’t very scientific.
You need to take your own advice, sir. Assuming you know everything there is to know about an experience you have never had is not scientific at all.
My claim can be replicated anytime you want. All you have to do is vaporize 45mg of DMT and inhale it. Until you do that, you haven’t applied the scientific method.
Yup there is research on OBEs that indicate that they’re hallucinations caused by some neurological mechanism. Repeated experiments to get individuals to see planted objects and read messages have all failed to result in success for the subjects.
I am not denying you had an experience. I am stating the obvious; you’re just assuming it was a real, non-hallucinatory event, because it seemed real. You don’t know that, you just think that’s the case.
…and it’s not the act you have to replicate, it’s an experiment that tests something…you know, an experiment.
Then you’ve obviously never heard of the experiment conducted by Dr. Charles Tart, Professor Emeritus of psychology at UoC. In his experiment, a girl was able to read and recall a 5 digit number while she was out of her body. Here is an article on the experiment :
http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2014/01/out-of-body-experiences-validated-by-scientific-study.html
You clearly know nothing about OBE research, and you either didn’t read or ignored the other link I posted earlier, which contained more information from a separate source that shows that OBEs cannot be explained away as hallucinations. And I’ve got a lot more info where that came from…
What you are doing is known as reinforcing a confirmation bias. You are not actually looking at all of the info fairly… you are only looking at (or imagining) the info that supports what you want to believe, and ignoring the rest. In any case, you clearly haven’t done enough research to be making the claims you are.
the overarching question to all of this, that you’re missing, is: what is reality or delusions or consciousness, anyway?? Is reality only that which can me felt with our limited senses?? Science has also proven that we each have trillions of MUONS (subatomic particles) pass through our body each day. I can’t feel them or see them, can you?? Don’t rely too heavily on your eyesight. Don’t rely too heavily on that which you can feel. Theoretical physicists claim there are 11 dimensions. We only “experience” four, right? more or less? I’m not trying to get too far out or metaphysical here but just know that anything can be “possible.” We don’t really know much and we’re learning more. Besides, why can’t a “feeling” be reality?
Another thing I’d like to add here is that the fact it is in our bodies is certainly not arbitrary. Sure, you can dose me with all kinds of things to make me feel sleepy, anxious, happy, what have you. Dose me with DMT and the effects are quite a bit more extreme. It is a “powerful psychoactive” as you like to call it (M3EEKS) … so what on earth is it doing in our body then? We know and understand why we might need relaxants, stimulants, happy and angry chemicals inside of us…. But why is there a “powerful psychoactive drug” in our brains, always? If you think this is arbitrary, you certainly aren’t applying the scientific method very well or thinking very hard… There are no accidents in nature…
DMT naturally occurring in our body = DMT is necessary for human existence.
If you believe that Everything about humans is chemical and physical, I feel very bad for anyone you say “I love you” to. I sure hope you don’t have children, ever.
All that we know of human body and brain so far, is indeed chemical and physical. So, I do *believe* that is likely all the rest is as well. I certainly hope you aren’t running around telling the clinically depressed that they just need their inner ghost to just shake it off and pull themselves up by their bootstraps and be happy. Cuz chemicals?! Making the brain work?! That’s silly. No. It isn’t. It is immensely complex and our understanding is limited. Scientists are only now really beginning to get a grasp of brain chemistry.
Now, while I understand your statement is made with a lack of information, allow me to make an assumption based on limited observation of you. You confidently self righteoisly speak from ignorance, and speak of love, then hope I never have children. I can judge by that that you are, without question, not only a supercilious ass, but cold and shallow individual. There is no excuse for that. If you don’t know how to engage as an adult, don’t. If you don’t know, learn. If you don’t have evidence, information and anything beyond opinion, go join a debate club, where arguments, not facts win. Ignorance does not give you license to be a dick.
I hope you learn to be a better person and are able to teach your children that love is not just a word.
Hey, remember when you said that there was no evidence that OBEs are real, and then I showed you a link about the experiment done by Charles Tart at UoC that proved you were wrong, and then you shut up and had nothing to say? Yeah, me too. That was funny.
it’s so funny how we think we can explain away things scientifically just because we invented the f**king iPhone. Everyone is an armchair chemist and scientist now. Be openminded, galactic. You’ll be doing yourself a big favor.
and if you weren’t experiencing an ongoing oxygen trip you’d realise you are simply breathing in a molecule that makes you forget you are actually one with God.
“spirituality” and consciousness is the base level of reality, this “waking life” is the simulation.
think about it, if you were God, it would be the ultimate trick to play on yourself. i almost envy you, you’re going to have the greatest giggle when you realise the game you’re playing.
Very interesting read. I was an atheist and strictly rationally focused for a long time. I now realize that there really is a meaning to our lives. Understanding of physics, chemical reactions in the brain, psychology etc.. are all important but they explains the “how” of living, not the “why.” Money, possessions and comfort are not the only reasons we are here. I believe we are here to live out one solid, continuous life cycle through our children and their children, etc.. and so on, so life never truly dies. It is a continuation of a single organism through regenerating by means of producing offspring. I believe what people call “God” is the source of all life. The experience of being alive and the fact that life exists is all part of it.
Dear Anonymous, thanks for your story and of course it’s valid. I have studied the practical dynamics of ‘Love in the world’ and know that it cannot be approached by conventional methods. Changing the paradigm for human thinking makes people very angry and there is more than the obvious rationale behind this. I suggest that one study Special Relativity and take it beyond Einstein’s ‘speed limit’.
Call bullshit all you want M3EEKS. I, too, am a Ph.D. scientist with no great need for anonymity. I too, have encountered that thing that the author is calling god, once via an intentionally induced DMT state and once during what I can only call a near death experience, which is now thought to also be a naturally induced DMT state. I wonder how many of us it will take to stand up and admit to this without any regard for who might call it BS. I suppose someone could do that stats, but it really doesn’t matter. Once the All is experienced, there’s no need for such silly shit. I promise you, I have been thinking critically about my experiences for many years and have done lots of reading of both peer reviewed and non peer reviewed research. I’m sure as hell not trying to deceive anyone, have no reason to, no benefit of any kind to be gained. That is what I would always ask a skeptic to consider….what would be the purpose of making such a thing up? I’m not trying to sell you anything or even save your soul. I’d simply ask that you open your mind up a little bit, it seems pretty darned stuck in a single epistemological viewpoint. While I believe that science is the one of the best tools out there for understanding the natural world and how it works, I also recognize its limitations.
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this was very well said, Brooke!!
I am open. I honestly thought this essay was faked by a naive theist.
I do understand that overdosing (it’s more than the body uses) on the substance that may control reality perception, or any other number of things, might lead one to have such an experience. It appears to instill a feeling of “knowing”. To have such an experience and throw away rationality is troubling to see in a scientist.
Consider individuals who have asked the same question and gotten a ” no” and instead became incredibly ‘aware’ of the “inner workings” of their mind and how they are part of the universe. Not the same experience. This diversity of divergent experience is what damns claims like these in my eyes.
So which is real? Are they all? Or is it just the influence of a substance? If not that, what? What is the process? Define. Explains. Test. Verify.
These are not absurd demands. “I experienced it” isn’t enough. An unbiased detatched investigator is needed, or since that’s hard to come by, the scientific method. You are not unbiased and detatched. You would be a subject.
I dont think we want to classify schizophrenia as real genuine sprirual experiences that we just don’t understand, because we weren’t there. We shouldn’t do the same here.
There is a question to be answered here. Search for the truth. One does not begin with an answer and look for the question.
I agree. My first reaction was “Bulshit”. I don’t think she’s a very good scientist. She seems to forget one of the primary tenets of science is testability. Repeating and verification. It doesn’t hurt that other scientists have repeated such feelings by stimulating the temporal lobes – instilling a feeling of “god” and a “presence”. How is it someone who makes a claim to be a scientist as the author does, is ignorant of such things and hasn’t researched this more? We can recreate her “holy crap there is a god!” feeling of ecstasy easily enough.
You seem to forget that one of the primary tenets of experience itself is that nobody knows for sure what it is, how it works, or where it comes from. Just because a substance or other external stimulation creates the experience doesn’t mean the experience is not real. How do you know that people AREN’T actually meeting god when they inhale some DMT or their temporal lobes are tickled? YOU DON’T! There is no difference between that experience and any other sober waking experience, electrically and chemically speaking. Because, as I’m sure you’re aware, it’s all just electrical synapses and chemicals in the brain. We know for a fact that a divine experience caused by DMT or temporal lobe stimulation is scientifically indistinguishable from any other kind of sensory experience (it’s just electrical activity in the brain), so your condescension of the author is quite long reaching. You did the exact same thing she did when you said that normal life is “real” just because you are experiencing it. The newest and most advanced scientific understandings on the planet indicate exactly the opposite. The deeper we are able to measure, the less solid everything becomes, and at the deepest level of what we can currently measure, we have learned that there is actually nothing there except potential and electrical spin. It’s all empty space that doesn’t exist in a measurable location until your conscious perspective enters the equation. Your consciousness itself causes the immeasurable empty space to “snap” into place, and become a specific thing in a specific place for only as long as it is observed. Once the observer is removed, the empty space goes back to being nothing, nowhere.
Fact; This is the way physical reality actually works. Learn it. Understand it. Deal with it. Waking life is no more “verifiable as solid” than a DMT trip.
It’s funny… all of the people (you included) who make comments like this are all the same. They act like they maintain some high scientific standards in their reasoning, but when you squeeze them a little bit, you find that they know nothing about real science, nor do they care to look at any real evidence, nor are they scientific at all.
The prime goal of rational thought seems to display the inherent limits of rationality itself.
Another random blurb with no context or direction.. Really not sure where you’re coming from or what you’re trying trying accomplish here, but your statement is wrong.
Rational thought is not static, it is an evolving and cumulative process. Therefore, the prime goal of rational thought seems to be the act of bringing what was once unknown into the realm of understanding.
The limits of rationality are constantly expanding over time. There is no limit to what can potentially be understood.
youtube channel and facebook nuked. did you reveal too much?
Your demands have been met (and then some) decades ago. Why don’t you bring yourself up to speed;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewdWBHh8hY8
The main problem with DMT though, is that the answers only provide more questions. We don’t have a proper framework of understanding the quanitifiable phenomena, and I hate to break it to you, but we will never get there through reductive skepticism.
That framework isn’t framework; you’re using a left brain view to explain gnosis, a largely right brain reliant mode of understanding. That’s, no offense, asinine and futile.
What framework? What are you talking about?
I think you need to read what I said one more time. Your comment doesn’t even make any sense.
No offense.
Try exploring a little more, it’s unlikely to even begin to make sense from just two episodes. Once you have learned how to communicate effectively in that realm you can gain information that you can test scientifically.
You have a PhD you say? I doubt it, you can’t even string a sentence together properly. Fuckin moron
They hand out PhD’s like candy these days.
I don’t need DMT to know that there is a benevolent Force bigger than our ego. Just take a look @ the bounty & beauty of the natural world. Nature is my DMT. I had a similar experience while flying over the Na Pali coast line. But of course each of us follow different paths, & one can’t claim his/hers is the only path to reach the mountain top
MAPS is a good source of information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1YmEkCJ87s&index=3&list=PLF34A3DDE0A87AE5C
I’ve had quite a similar experience after therapy with mushrooms not only helped my PTSD and cured my alcoholism, but illuminated me to the truth that my “new atheist” or anti-theist mindset was not only highly suspect but rooted in political, not logical, motives. Essentially, my experience with a heroic dose left me disabused of my materialist paradigm and my neo-conservative funded talking points sewing seeds of intolerance as invasive and deadly as those of the co-opted radical religious groups. I went from life-long skeptic and post 9/11 Islamophobe atheist to an open source journalist Gnostic more in line with Chris Hedges ideologically and spirtually. My next documentary is on the long waged war on faith and its zionist and neo conservative roots, taking particular aim at elite fear porn stars Sam Harris and Bill Maher.
cheers and God bless
I was found at work dead of a cardiac arrest and brought back to life 18.5 minutes once 9-11 was contacted. The fire hall that the call went to was only minutes from the home i had died in. i was to be this and that and live in a hospital in someones care for this new life and 50 months later,here i am writing on here. Sure there are plenty of things wrong with me but what you posted i can relate to. There are exceptions to everything living thing and you like me are proof of that. My kids are in their 30’s and unless they say hi dad i would walk right by them. could i recognize my granddaughter if she was sitting by another child the same color? Absolutely not but I was somewhere within that 20 plus minutes as they have no idea exactly how long i lay there before being found dead. Do I know that there is more than this life in the universe and that our trip is very short and sweet for a reason? Absolutely. This stop is a pit stop for what we require ahead. The people and things that you have met here are only here for our understandings and feelings and are required in future places that we will be visiting in different forms. This 2nd time here in the same century and in the same decade is an anomaly and is quite a weird thing as i do not know the people i knew, i do not know my children without them saying hi dad. Anything that had anything to do with my old life is not at all what my life is today. I am ok, i do ok, but i live as tough i am in a new town each and every day and if it wasn’t for my previous business i would be hiding under a blanket in a corner somewhere being cared for by someone other than myself. Like Brooke says, I’m sure not trying to deceive, sell, or make shit up since i have to live this trip each and every day and the people and doctor that follow me just call me a miracle!! As for God, I was a believer in what we have been brainwashed with but until everyone takes their 10% donations to the church and utilizes it to help their neighbor, street, community, village, city etc the world will keep on being the way it is. The few at the top who control what the billions of abiding people breath eat and drink must be discarded of so that life as it was meant to be here can resume here before it is too late.
So you are messing with your brain which makes up stuff mixed with stuff you got indoctrinated with as a child and claim that proves anything?
Haven’t you learned anything from the scientific method?
Ha, okay, I’m convinced, time to start getting high and let the lord in.
Why is it that when people screw with their brains and have wild experiences, they believe it’s the world that’s gone wild, and not just their brains? Do you also believe the world disappears when your eyes close?
“I’m a scientist, but instead of relying on evidence and argument to convince me, this one time I let drugs shortcircuit my brain, giving me the emotional feeling of being convinced, without any of the pesky need for logic or rationale.”
Imagine if you were reading a journal article in your field of research, in which the author claimed he had made a huge breakthrough, and offered as evidence only the fact that he felt it to be true. Who would take his research seriously? As preposterous as that sounds – that’s exactly how preposterous your claim sounds here.
if you know it, you can show it, personal experience count for shit, and you call your self a scientist, you are a disgrace to the name.
btw, being high on a drug is your evidence for god, you are pathetic. and should get a refund on that, whatever degree you have, because simply having a degree is something everyone can get, understanding logical thinking and the scientific method, requiters more than what the school tells you. you are polluting everything about logical and critical thinking associated with science.
you should know better, as this is whole text is just littered with fallacies from start to end.
The issue I believe atheists have is when people like this woman who claim that they were once atheist, and suddenly when they have this type of experience, they are convinced of “God.” What must be understood by the atheist, despite the claim of the woman, is that N,N-DMT invokes a phenomenon in consciousness in which the subjective impression can often have a person use such words like “God” to describe the experience. I once heard an atheist after coming down from the DMT flash describe what they had just experienced as, “It felt as though I was somehow able to glimpse a higher dimension.” Notice, this person didn’t say “God,” but they used an equally profound metaphor.
Now, this atheist may understand that he didn’t literally glimpse a ‘higher dimension,’ but nevertheless he describes it that way, because this is what the experiential content invoked, and for most people it will often elicit this type of description. In Dr. Rick Strassman’s book “DMT: The Spirit Molecule,” he points out that common descriptions of the subjective impression of the experience were often stated as “fourth-dimensional” or “beyond dimensionality.”
There has been similar clinical trials done with psilocybin, a compound structurally related to N,N-DMT. When psilocybin passes the blood-brain barrier, it becomes psilocin, and if you’ll click the image below, you’ll find that N,N-DMT and psilocin are practically identical.
http://i.imgur.com/k0Lgal6.png
The study done at Johns Hopkins has shown that psilocybin is very capable of inducing what the study calls “mystical experience” which is a specific type of hallucination that exhibits particular characteristics that seem to be universal to anyone whom has this experience. I won’t post those characteristics here, but they involve things like a temporary feeling of “unconditional love,” a deep intuition of everything that exists being interconnected, there is a sense of the numinous or the transcendent, etc. Instead, I’ll post a link to a video of the leader of the research reviewing the peer-reviewed material coming from the study that was published in the scientific journal of Psychopharmacology, and he lists these characteristics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKm_mnbN9JY#t=7m35s
Now, here’s the important point to make in all of this, and this is the point that I believe a lot of atheists overlook because they’re unfamiliar with this phenomenon in consciousness. Even if a Christian has this experience, and feels literally that they had a direct experience of the divine or God, the scientists involved in these studies will nevertheless only consider the Christian’s account as a description of the subjective content of this “mystical experience,” and not believe that they truly met the “divine.” You see, people often will reach for the most profound concepts they know in order to describe what they felt/experienced, and so if you’re religious, naturally people will tend towards religious metaphors and explanations such as “meeting God” or experiencing “nirvana,” etc.
The implication of the study is a Perennial philosophical point-of-view. Many contemporary philosophers have considered Perennial philosophy, many physicists have considered that this may be the true root of religion. Michio Kaku discusses this in his latest book titled “The Future of the Mind: The Scientific Quest to Understand, Enhance, and Empower the Mind.” That the mystics throughout the ages; i.e. Christ, Muhammad, Gautama, etc. may have had this type of experience, perhaps if not through psychedelics, but by other means. Kaku discusses it in the form of “hyperreligiosity” which a symptom of Geshwind syndrome which is a group of behavioral phenomena evident in some temporal lobe epilepsy patients. Now, another example where this phenomenon can happen is a stroke as in the case of Jill Bolte Taylor. I believe this phenomenon can be induced in a number of ways, not simply through a seizure or stroke, but also through the ingestion of psychedelics, through disciplines such as Zen meditation, or even within the near-death experience. The psychedelics seem to be the most facile route to this phenomenon without having to endure a seizure, a near-death experience, etc. In other words, the safest route to it without much risk to the organism.
All right. So, the point to this post is that I think it’s a mistake for the atheist to regard this woman’s account as “proof of God.” We should, instead, act as the scientists do in these studies, and simply regard her account as a description of the experiential content of her “mystical experience.” This experience is perhaps the most profound experience a human can undergo, and through my studies, I find the common correlation of the descriptions seem to all generalize around a philosophical Absolute. A philosophical Absolute, to describe it succinctly, is a transcendent all-encompassing reality. So, since it will often be filtered through an individual’s personality, the conceptual background of the individual will often shape their interpretation of it. So, if you’re Christian, you might call it God; if you’re an atheist, you might say you felt as though you glimpsed a higher dimension; if you’re a Taoist, you might say, “It is the flowing of the Tao.” In either case, what is felt is something transcendent, profound, and a deep sense of interconnectedness. I believe if we truly want to understand religion, we should properly investigate this particular type of altered state of consciousness. As long as we’re in the dark about these type altered states, religion will continue to flourish and remain a mystery.
After reading all the comments below, I think it’s important to say that this article is about 5MeO-DMT which is vastly different from nn-DMT (a.k.a. DMT). Also, there are many words and opinions not based on the EXPERIENCE, which makes no sense to me. 5MeO is much less well known or studied.
Comment for atheists on drug use
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Personal Story: I’m a Scientist who was an atheist until DMT opened my heart
in response to one of the comments below, and to address ALL commenters and readers:
Anecdotal evidence is NOT evidence? YES IT IS!! All testimony is evidence. The whole legal system is based on testimonies – witnesses testifying to events that they saw, it is considered evidence. That is why they bother having witnesses do it. If one person or 12 people say they saw a blue truck on a particular corner in a place
at the same time, that is not evidence? How do you explain that they saw it?
They are lying, or are all lying? Maybe. But it doesn’t prove they are lying.
THey may be telling the truth.
Do you know any people? How about the family you grew up in? Would you believe them if they said they saw that truck on that corner? Do you trust them not to lie to you? Most of have people who we KNOW and would trust so if they told us they saw something, we would believe it because they have credibility for US
That is part of the purpose of testimony. When someone tells us something we
need to ask ourselves – if they are lying – why would they lie? what would be
their motive?
when someone writes a book and says they saw something or something happened,
and they make a lot of money, a reasonable question is whether they made it up
to sell books. But if it is free, what is the motive to lie? So then it is more
trustable.
I WRITE on my website Testimonies of GOd being real and answering my prayers
and telling me things MY books are FREE so people do not say “oh maybe she
made it up to make money”. I don’t want that idea to be a stumbling block
to people in believing what I testify to.
But you don’t need to take my word for it anyway, only use it as an inspiration
or inducement to try the same things yourself -use the scientific method, which
is to take a hypothesis and test it.
The truth of GOD can be EASILY proven this way by the scientific method. Pray
to God for something. If the prayer gets answered 10 times, it would be
disingenuous to argue that NOTHING is answering that prayer. SOMETHING exists
and is responding. THEN it becomes a theological question to understand more
about what that something actually is. Is it a Trinity? Is it the elephant God
Ganesh? Is it Jesus? and there are ways to deduce that too.
If God heals you of a disease when you pray in the name of Jesus, that is
evidence that JESUS is real. If it doesn’t work when you pray in the name of
Moses, Buddah, Ganesh etc that is evidence that those names and the spirits
they invoke do not have that power or don’t exist.
Jesus healed people as a TESTIMONY that he was real, the savior of the world
that he was who he said he was in the new testament. He gave HIS followers
authority to do the same thing. I have done it. I have rebuked cancer, asthma-,
depress-. in Jesus name. IT works. the disease was gone.
All mental and physical illnesses are caused by demonic spirits whose
‘assignments” are the names of the disease Jesus rebuked them and gave his
followers authority to do it.
I had a brown blob appear on my hand in prison. 4 guards saw it and said
“what is that thing?” I heard the word Melanoma” I my spirit God
was telling me what it was. I asked god “what should I do” He said “pray
for it to go away” I said “I rebuke this melanoma in Jesus name”
and it was gone overnight. I wasn’t the only one who saw it and I wasn’t the
only one who saw it gone. It was no “hallucination”
The presence that these people describe feeling while using whatever drugs – is
real. It is not a hallucination. The next step is to explore theologically –
which is to read the bible and PRAY to God or whatever other deities and see
WHAT HAPPENS
I had an experience YEARS ago at a worship service of a church where I felt
love flooding through me as they worshipped JESUS so I knew it had something to
do with JESUS by calling on HIS name they were invoking HIS spirit.
When someone calls OUR name we turn our heads and come over. same with spirits whether it is jesus or the devil.
The Paris shooting was an example of the same thing. The band and audience were
singing a song “Kiss the devil” when the shooting erupted. That is
because they were invoking HIS spirit and this is what happens when that
happens. The presence of the devil is not LOVE.
People in prisons in solitary all hear voices speaking to them. I spent 8
months in solitary so I know. THey are TOLD by the mental health people who are
atheists, that they are hallucinating. So they get distressed thinking they are
going crazy. They are NOT hallucinating. The spirits talking to them are REAL.
The bible says there are two sources of thought GOd and the demonic. James ch 3
says there is wisdom from above and from below.
Psychiatrists 2nd question is always “Do you hear voices” and if
anyone says yes they are trained to call it an auditory hallucination and say
they are psychotic a supposed symptom of schizophrenia which is a NONSENSE
LABEL.
EVERYONE hears voices, as thoughts in our heads They come from t
he spiritual realm. The word INSPIRATION means A SPIRIT GOES INTO IT. They come from God or demons.
GOd’s spirit brings PEACE. and His presence is LOVE.
Demons harangue, mock, tempt peole to sin, say negative things like
“nobody likes you, go kill yourself or someone else, etc” They
produce anxiety and fear.
We need courses in APPLIED THEOLOGY
Applied Theology
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/08/applied-theology.html
the purpose is to USE the scientific method to determine theological questions.
Try praying different prayers to whatever entities and gives us the report.
This course should happen from k-12, through college.
People take all kinds of theology and philosophy classes reading all kinds of
beliefs and are NOT taught to test it empirically to figure out what is true.
They read the books and have no idea.
It is not NON RATIONAL to pray and use the scientific method. It is rational.
It is evidence.
God has been answering MY Prayers for 20 years, in ways that are verifiable. In
my case He changes the weather all the time.
I am in nyc. I asked GOd to make it 70 on Christmas. It was. It set a record.
He did the same thing 2 years ago. This is obviously verifiable. Is all of NY
enough witnesses for you?
During Hurricane Sandy I asked God to “please keep the power on near
me” He said “stay by the Grace building which sits on 43 street in
midtown Manhattan, in a place he had found for me a year earlier. As I sat
there, HE said to me TESTIMONY and NOAH FOUND GRACE IN THE EYES OF THE LORD
which is from Genesis.
God answered the prayer. ALL of Lower Manhattan lost power and was drenched up to 42 st. ON my side of the GRACE building 43 we had power and were dry. That is a MILLION Witnesses that God is real AND ANSWERS PRAYERS.
THERE ARE bILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON EARTH AND HISTORICALLY WHO BELIEVE IN GOD BECAUSE HE DOES ANSWER THEIR PRAYERS ALL THE TIME. FAITH IS NOT BLIND. IT IS BUILT ON EVIDENCE.
USE YOUR RATIONAL MIND TO TRY PRAYING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!
THE BIBLE also says that God wants us to worship him in spirit and truth. so
there becomes a point where he may only answer prayers when we get our theology correct, because he does not want us to believe lies about him. He wants us to know that Jesus IS the savior for mankind. Hence if just say “Please God
heal me” he may or may not do it. Sometimes he does. Other times he wants
that person to say In the name of Jesus so they will realize that Jesus IS the
messiah – especially with Jews. Because they are brought up thinking they HAVE
god and don’t need Jesus, which is FALSE. Everyone needs Jesus to go to heaven.
He is our ticket to heaven to this experience of the presence of God that these
people are testifying to with their various drug experiences.
Rather than thinking these people made up their experiences, it is more
productive to take the premise that they are probably telling the truth, but
what is the explanation. We need to study theology to find it out. That is why
theology books are written
The bible is not myth. It is a HISTORY book of WHO god is and what he said and
what he wants from us in relationship to him.
God gives us personal experiences by answering prayers and talking to us and
letting us feel his presence as a way of confirming that the bible is true – so
that we will also believe the things it says about the future to gain
credibility like in any relationship.
Many prophecies given by the prophets have come true – that is verifiable
history and it gives credibility. One can FEEL the presence of GOD when reading
a bible God’s PEACE, this is because it is an IMPARTATION of HIS SPIRIT it is not just mental information ideas. It is more than that.
MUSIC does this too. IT transmits spirits. It is an impartation. That is why it
affects people’s thoughts and emotions so powerfully. ALL thoughts and emotions
are caused by various spirits.
Many cultures understood this. I was a planetary geology major at Brown for 3 years before switching my major to music. I studied ALL the sciences. I went there for the 14 story science library and used to read arcane books on cosmoloy) I spent a year studying how music affects people. The Hindus and ancient greeks had theories of how different scales (or ragas) invoked different emotional states – which was caused by different spirits. Christian theology is similar. It says that God or demonic spirits are invoked by whatever spirit is named. It is all true.
I have played piano since 3. I remember having the thought as a kid “I am
put on earth to do music and it is holy” This idea came from God.
I remember one time I was playing and my mother was trying to talk to me. I had
the thought “doesn’t she know this is holy and she shouldn’t
interrupt?”
All my life when I play people have said to me “when you play there is a
peace on you” that is from the presence of GOD.
I have also felt extreme peace walking in a park in a jewish neighborhood on
Shabbat (it is God’s presence and Peace and in Israel, at the Sea of Galilee
where Jesus walked on the water That was the most powerful. it is a palpable
experience.
I had Asked God to send me a teacher. A guy moved into the building next door
and went to my church so I met him. He was God’s answer to my prayer. HE had a
peace on HIM that was palpable. One could feel it just next to him. It was
magnetic. I went to see him to see how he got it. It was from his faith and
relationship with Jesus. He was a Pentecostal from Russia. His name ILYA means
ELIJAH in Russian who was one of the greatest prophets. I am also named after a
prophetess This is a the sign of a call on a person’s life. ANYONE named after
a prophet is called by God to become one. This is obvious to me now. God
inspires our parents to name us, and they don’t even realize whey. They just
like the name, sometimes. Mine didn’t even know my name was in the bible.
Another sign of the call on me is my gift with music . In the old testament the
musicians were prophets. Their JOB is to invoke Gods presence so He can speak
to us and heal us and do business with us and TO SPEAK FOR HIM. WHICH IS WHY I ALSO WRITE.
no OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET SOLD THEIR MESSAGES WHIC HIS WHY MINE ARE FREE.
GOD HAS GIVEN ME MANY EXPERIENCES IN TESTIMONY THAT HE IS REAL. AND TO WARN PEOPLE ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS.
tHE METNAL HEALTH system is rooted in an atheistic worldview and is dangerous for everyone. The drugs ruin peoples brains. they interfere with clear
thinking. They block thoughts – all thoughts, not just bad thoughts. nobody can
think clearly on them. They also interfere with creativity and spiritual
experiences. I have been praying in tongues since I was baptized in l990. It is
the mechanism by which God moves and answers prayers. I could not do it on the
psych drugs. It has been argued that the 3rd eye is a spiritual channel for us
and it Is in the pineal gland. The psych drugs have fluoride which calcify the
pineal gland, hampering its function.
I am a lifelong composer and heard no music in my head on those drugs. THEY ARE
SOUL MURDER. hEARING MUSIC IN YOUR HEAD IS NOT A HALLUCINATION IT IS
INSPIRATION. aLL MUSICIANS WHO WRITE MUSIC DO THIS.
I REMEMBER sitting on my bed hearing symphonies in my head. Either it was
coming from radio broadcasts and I was picking it up from fillings in my teeth,
which has happened or it was from the spiritual realm. I knew it wasn’t from
ME. I believe it was the former. I asked God about this and all the experiences
I have had.
God speaks to us constantly when we are in relationship to him and he has a
sense of humor. he would have to, with all the stupidity of mankind.
God gives us all a perfectly good brain and at age 18 many people decide that
it is a good idea to destroy their brain by drinking alcohol and taking other
drugs like pot, lsd etc. BAD IDEA. Alcohol causes brain damage. That is why
people do idiotic things on it. IT is an opening for DEMONC spirits. That is
why liquor stores say WINE LIQUOR AND SPIRITS.
These drugs open people to the spiritual realm and changes their paradigm of
the world, but it is not good or necessary to keep using htem. It is better to
just pray you will have the same experience without doing brain damage. Worship
music is the way to invoke the presence of God.
Psych drugs and hallucinogens open people to demonic spirits whose purpose is
mind control. They put people in a hypnotic state.
Timothy Leary pushed LSd and admitted he was funded by the CIA . it was part of
a mind control experience with the Hippy Generation. Aldous Huxley who was an
agent of TAVISTOCK institute in London, a think tank whose purpose is mind
control and runs all the think tanks in the US sent Huxley to the US to
introduce LSD.
Huxley wrote BRAVE NEW WORLD to expose their agenda. It is an illuminati
blueprint. They want a society where EVERYONE is drugged, for mind control. In
the book they used SOMA a feel good drug. Pot destroys peoples ambition .It was
used to derail the anti-war movement by making people sit around giggling at
nothing staring at their navels. it worked.
They are now pushing drugs again to this generation for the same purpose. Mind
control. We are now in the society prophesied in that book. People are
distracted by entertainment, mindless sex and sports and are drugged into a
hypnotic state so they can be more easily brainwashed. All the mass shootings
are done by people who were on psych drugs. they cause suicide and homicide.
Pot makes a lot of people paranoid since it is an opening for demonic srpitis.
THen they get sent to a psych ward, labeled paranoid schizophrenic and their
life is ruined taking these drugs forever. I had a boyfriend years ago this
happened to. It started with pot. I stopped using it at 20. It gave me a
headache and I never did it again.
Experimenting with anything can be dangerous. Before you do it, read up on what
you are considering doing. Ouija boards for example DO work and they are
dangerousl They open people up to demonic spirits and curses. I know this
personally. I used to use one with a friend and the same thing happened to both
of us – first our aunt died and then our mothers. Obviously this changed my
life.
not for the better. this is why I write to warn people what NOT to do.
The problem with being an atheist is that one can not fulfil God’s calling on
their life if one stays in that position. It is part of their testimony of what
they were before they get saved. Everyone has a calling. It says in Jeremiah 1
“I knew you before I formed you in the womb”
There are many people who are called to be prophets who warn about various
things. I call them God’s Atheist prophets.
They also see the hypocrisy in organized religion, which is there because it
is infiltrated by demonic spirits to discredit it in many cases The devil does
evil in Jesus name to discredit Jesus. ANd many religious groups do not obey
god. If they did churches would all be open 24 hours.
some examples of atheist prophets are Bill maher, JESSE Ventura, Richard
Stallman. I also knew Carl Sagan>
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Applied Theology
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/08/applied-theology.html
God’s Atheist prophets
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/03/gods-atheist-prophets.html
Everyone has a phase 2 ministry
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/12/everyone-has-phase-2-ministry.html
Everything you have been through is part of YOUR unique testimony. God directs our lives for this purpose.
God’s purpose for gay people
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/06/gods-purpose-for-gay-people.html
Christopher Hitchens did not have to die – he was called by Jesus to testify to HIM
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/02/christopher-hitchens-did-not-have-to.html
Your name is often a sign of the call on your life by God – everyone has a calling
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/02/your-name-is-often-sign-of-call-on-your.html
70 degrees for Christmas an answer to my prayers
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2015/12/70-degrees-for-christmas-answer-to-my.html
Hurricane Sandy & the Grace building –a testimony of God
Http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/02/hurricane-sandy-grace-building.html
Schizophrenia is NOT a “serious mental disorder”
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/02/schizophrenia-is-not-serious.html
Spiritual bootcamp my experience in solitary launchng prayers
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/02/spiritual-bootcamp-my-experience-in.html
NEVER AGAIN? IT never stopped! The mental health system is a front for Nazi
genocide
Http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/04/never-again-it-never-stopped-mental.html
The nazis killed mental patients with psych drugs in the t4 euthenasia program. This genocide has continued worldwide since using mental health as a cover.
Dr Peter Breggin who has written many books
warning about psych drugs was the first to expose the t4 genocide. http://www.breggin.com
Wisdom 101 for a
generation that has no common sense
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2015/02/wisdom-101-for-generation-that-has-no.html
Letter to a scientist-atheist
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/02/letter-to-scientist-atheist.html
Manual for Transformational
Healing- God’s Answer to Psychiatry
http://www.1prophetspeaks.com/Manual%20for%20Transformational%20healing%20REVISED.doc
Exposes atheist
psychaitry & their nonsense labels, which falsely call Christians and
anyone with spiritual beliefs or experiences schizophrenic a nonsense label,
and their genocide by drugs which are deadly by design, and tells how to heal
mental and physical illness thrugh prayer and worship
God sent me into the
psych system after I became a Christian to be a witness against it. I was on
the drugs I spent over 7 years. The drugs are torture I know many who died
from them The title to the book came to
me in a dream – from God God often
speaks I dreams, it is biblical.
Bible Translations – only the King James is good
http://www.1prophetspeaks7.blogspot.com/2014/02/bible-translations-only-king-james-is_24.html
ADVENTURES IN PRAYER – testimony of a prophet-intercessor
My very strange
life book in progress
http://www.1prophetspeaks.com/ADVENTURES%20IN%20PRAYER%20-%20testimony%20of%20a%20prophet-intercessor.htm
Nobody can be an atheist after reading this.
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Restoration Songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEBaqyAek0A
At their core essence, the Western religions are purely Gnostic and of the mind. Their objective is the deepening and expansion of consciousness through the transformation of the body that permits our True-Self to manifest (see http://SoulSelf.org ). When religion comes under secular control, and the teachings are used in the fascist control over the people, the religion itself becomes dumbed-down and derailed from its original purpose and objective. That modern Judaism, Christianity and Islam have virtually nothing in common with their original spiritual teachings, is a reality that modern religion must come to terms with. These religions in their original pure state were of the mind — and the transformation thereof — and were not at all an environment of blind faith and belief in corrupted religious texts (see http://BibleCorruption.com ) in the manner they are today. The good part is that as the Churches begin to fade, Spiritual Christianity is being restored and reborn — becoming known by its original name as TheWay — and the important Truths of the original Ebionite Nazirenes are being restored. (see http://Cronshaw.us )
I wish “we”…meaning us open-minded people could pool our $$$ together and buy our own little country……allowing us to finally be free.
pharmacologically induced experiences such as this one actually reveal the dance performed by 80 billion neurons and how a modest tweak can shatter our internal reality models of self and beyond. Injecting “god” into nature has been problematic. Terms such as “god”, “spirit”, “soul”, etc. seem to describe what we don’t understand about ourselves and existence, and let us off the hook to learn more.